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Old 11-25-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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Street vendors have been around for a long, long time and peacefully co-existed with the brick and mortar.

But now everyone wants to be a street vendor because it's cheaper to operate that than a brick and mortar.

Take a good idea and exploit it. It's like the mall..the kiosks have taken over the walkways in malls leaving 2 little strips of space on either side for walking.

well, they are just the market telling landlords that they are extorting too much rent from the b&m people. imo, vendors are doing a good job keeping the landlords in check
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:03 AM
 
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What is your alternative,tyranny ? did you read the article? You would want the gvt to go after a vendor for putting toppings on a hot dog? Go after flower growers over contaminated dirt It is amazing how people are against freedom
They go after store owners, so yes, it needs to be fair. Many street vendors go through no health inspections, they don't bother with food handlers cards, they profit by paying no overhead, they don't pay for utilities, or building costs.

Yet like someone pointed out, they will park themsvelves in front of a store or shop and sell the same product.

The street vendors are also business owners for those who just dislike businesses.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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They go after store owners, so yes, it needs to be fair. Many street vendors go through no health inspections, they don't bother with food handlers cards, they profit by paying no overhead, they don't pay for utilities, or building costs.
As far as health inspections I'm with you, but overhead and building costs? So what? Good for them. That's called efficiency and everyone's better off because of it.

The only thing that needs to be "fair" is how the government applies the rules.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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They go after store owners, so yes, it needs to be fair. Many street vendors go through no health inspections, they don't bother with food handlers cards, they profit by paying no overhead, they don't pay for utilities, or building costs.

Yet like someone pointed out, they will park themsvelves in front of a store or shop and sell the same product.

The street vendors are also business owners for those who just dislike businesses.
And if a food truck makes a lot of people sick, it's pretty hard for the health department to track them down when they move around from place to place, even city to city.

Food trucks are great to have around when there are special events in town that draw more people than the local restaurants can handle but to allow them to park themselves right in front of b&m places under normal circumstances isn't right. Those b&m businesses spend money in their community buying advertising, printing, linens, restaurant decor, etc., etc. Paying rent and utilities. They employ a lot of people from managers to cleaners. They are more valuable to a community than a food truck. The food trucks don't have the same accountability in handling food safely or paying their fair share of taxes yet when they park in front of an established restaurant they are like leeches sucking up the customer base the b&m has worked hard to build up. They need licensing and common-sense regulations applied to them.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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And if a food truck makes a lot of people sick, it's pretty hard for the health department to track them down when they move around from place to place, even city to city.

Food trucks are great to have around when there are special events in town that draw more people than the local restaurants can handle but to allow them to park themselves right in front of b&m places under normal circumstances isn't right. Those b&m businesses spend money in their community buying advertising, printing, linens, restaurant decor, etc., etc. Paying rent and utilities. They employ a lot of people from managers to cleaners. The food trucks don't have the same accountability in handling food safely or paying their fair share of taxes yet when they park in front of an established restaurant they are like leeches sucking up the customer base the b&m has worked hard to build up. They need licensing and common-sense regulations applied to them.

too bad, if the vendors have the licensing and permits to set up shop, even if it in front of another place that serves food, then so be it. if is a place that did not get the needed permits and licenses then the law applies.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And if a food truck makes a lot of people sick, it's pretty hard for the health department to track them down when they move around from place to place, even city to city.
These types of vendors have been around for decades.
Why now ? What's changed that all of a sudden people fear getting sick from them ?
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:23 AM
 
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Record holiday travel despite higher airfares, projections of 5 million kindle fires to sell out, yup nothing like the Great Depression bringing the common man to his knees
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:54 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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These types of vendors have been around for decades.
Why now ? What's changed that all of a sudden people fear getting sick from them ?
Sheer numbers. Food vendors with push carts have been around a long time but there's been an explosion of fancy food trucks selling specialty foods. These are not the kind of trucks you see at state fairs and carnivals selling elephant ears. Restaurants in malls have clauses in their leases that the management can't rent to more than x-number of other restaurants because they know an area can only support so many restaurants. It's not fair that 3-4 food trucks can pull up in the parking lot and set up for the busiest days of the week yet not be there to offer the same service on the less profitable days like the b&m restaurants are. Cities have a responsibility to protect their business base and making reasonable regulations governing how close to b&m restaurants a food truck can park....that IS reasonable.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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The street vendors are also business owners for those who just dislike businesses.

typical. call the govt to get rid of the things you don't like, and scream blue murder when that monster you created starts going after the things you do like!
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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typical. call the govt to get rid of the things you don't like, and scream blue murder when that monster you created starts going after the things you do like!
Why is it unreasonable to require a food truck selling cupcakes to park 500 feet away from a b&m cupcake shop? A lot of small towns don't let chain restaurants build in the city limits to protect the local restaurants. Food truck regulations are no different.
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