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As you are so smart, site the law/rule that requires a cop to wrestle with anyone?
All of thoes cops could have been 100lb women.
Should they be required to wrestle with them?
no, No cop is.
The ball is in your court.
Just answer that one question and site your source of law to back up what you say.
As I have with mine.
Sweetheart, you haven't cited anything about what the officers should be required to do in this circumstance. You've provided a couple of definitions, period. I already cited the case law that found that an officer who used pepper spray on a person who posed no threat due to their seated position on the ground, in spite of them not obeying a lawful police order, was violating that person's 4th amendment rights.
You don't get to just hand-wave away the cite that proves your interpretation wrong, just because you disapprove of the protests.
FAIL.
You couldn't do it.
I have.
I cited law, California state, fed and constitutional law
and campus policy.
Again, what does the Fourth Amendment--"Search and Seizure" have to do with it?
The Fourth Amendment
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated; and no Warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
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Sweetheart, you haven't cited anything about what the officers should be required to do in this circumstance. You've provided a couple of definitions, period. I already cited the case law that found that an officer who used pepper spray on a person who posed no threat due to their seated position on the ground, in spite of them not obeying a lawful police order, was violating that person's 4th amendment rights."
You don't get to just hand-wave away the cite that proves your interpretation wrong, just because you disapprove of the protests.
Just site the law/rule that requires a cop to wrestle with anyone.
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Conservatives and OP, you'd be singing the exact same tune if police tried to remove abortion protestors using these tactics off a private practice, right? Right?
Conservatives and OP, you'd be singing the exact same tune if police tried to remove abortion protestors using these tactics off a private practice, right? Right?
Have you seen anything posted that indicates that is not the case?
Conservatives and OP, you'd be singing the exact same tune if police tried to remove abortion protestors using these tactics off a private practice, right? Right?
You haven't been paying attention. That has been addressed already. Abortion protesters are protesting murder, not so-called "income inequality" . Big difference. And besides that, as a pro-lifer, I am against any protests or actions used in protests that break the law and/or encroach on the rights of other. I do not agree with pro-life protesters blocking entry to an abortion clinic, however vile I do find abortion clinics. As long as abortion is legal, that clinic has the right to have customers, just as the pro-life protesters have the right to voice their opinion against it.
Irregardless of my stance on abortion or political positioning.
As for the abortion protesters in my city at least.
If someone is physically stopped from entering the police quickly step in "blocking access"
The protesters walk around.
They are smarter than the occupiers. (maybe they should go back to school?) This is a big difference in the laws eyes.
They are not sitting with arms locked, chanting or blocking anyone from using the sidewalk and if they do then the police shall step in as required by law.
Pluss they could have a permit for all you know and if they did they would have to do it legally.
I'm not saying you can't protest.
Protest anything you wish.
Just do so legally and at your expense, not at the expense of those around you.
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Conservatives and OP, you'd be singing the exact same tune if police tried to remove abortion protestors using these tactics off a private practice, right? Right?
You haven't been paying attention. That has been addressed already. Abortion protesters are protesting murder, not so-called "income inequality" . Big difference. And besides that, as a pro-lifer, I am against any protests or actions used in protests that break the law and/or encroach on the rights of other. I do not agree with pro-life protesters blocking entry to an abortion clinic, however vile I do find abortion clinics. As long as abortion is legal, that clinic has the right to have customers, just as the pro-life protesters have the right to voice their opinion against it.
So you don't believe income inequality doesn't cause a host of problems?
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That has been addressed already. Abortion protesters are protesting murder, not so-called "income inequality" 
. Big difference. And besides that, as a pro-lifer, I am against any protests or actions used in protests that break the law and/or encroach on the rights of other. I do not agree with pro-life protesters blocking entry to an abortion clinic, however vile I do find abortion clinics. As long as abortion is legal, that clinic has the right to have customers, just as the pro-life protesters have the right to voice their opinion against it.
