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Old 11-26-2011, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Ahh Theocracy......
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:00 PM
 
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I love how people get all riled up over the ten commandments, and then treat the other 200+ laws in the Torah as no big deal.
The Ten Utterances (Ten Commandments) are the chapter headings under which the other 603 Mitzvot (603 Commandments) are organized.

10 + 603 = 613

Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:25 PM
 
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A local school district is well within their rigths if they choose to display the Ten Commandmants.

The Constitution prevents the US Congress from establishing an official state religion. Nothing more.
Wrong. The 14th Amendment incorporated the Bill of Rights to apply to all levels of government.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:31 PM
 
Location: California
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Ohhhh! Christian grandstanding! "go somewhere else" indeed. Obviously Christ isn't as big there as this kid thinks or it wouldn't be an issue.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:32 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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The Ten Utterances (Ten Commandments) are the chapter headings under which the other 603 Mitzvot (603 Commandments) are organized.

10 + 603 = 613

Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)
603 commandments...hey at least I was over 200!
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:44 PM
 
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Besides, it's not like most people in the Bible belt actually obey what's written in the Bible, they just want to look like good religious folk.
More like none of them actually know what's in the bible since almost none of them have ever read it.




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Ohhhh! Christian grandstanding! "go somewhere else" indeed. Obviously Christ isn't as big there as this kid thinks or it wouldn't be an issue.
Heh, was just gonna say anyone who's actually been to Giles County would tell ya Jesus ain't shown his sorry face around there in generations, nor would he. It's a dump.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:07 AM
 
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The key to argument such as these....
The kids whose parents raise them and enforce on them a Christian morality or religion...don't need the Ten Commandments. Its the Christian parents who support this who want to influence YOUR children, damn how you want to raise them.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:28 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure we already did this 'ish...
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:33 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Well your view disagrees with that of the Supreme Court. Unless the display has a secular purpose, it does prohibit a state or local gov't from doing so as the 14th amendment applies the 1st amendment to the states.


really?

the states have been violating the 2nd Amendment for so long it is hard to remember when they started doing it. when is the scotus going to uphold that as well.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:48 AM
 
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The school board ultimately voted to restore the Ten Commandments displays, adopting a proposal that the commandments be hung beside other historical documents, including a picture of Lady Justice, the text of the Star-Spangled Banner, the Bill of Rights, the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, the Declaration of Independence, the Virginia Declaration of Rights, the Mayflower Compact and the Magna Carta.
LOL.

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Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
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Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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Section 16. That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practise Christian forbearance, love, and charity toward each other.
Bill of Rights - The Virginia Declaration of Rights

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator...
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Well aware that Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burdens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time; that to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves, is sinful and tyrannical; that even the forcing him to support this or that teacher of his own religious persuasion, is depriving him of the comfortable liberty of giving his contributions to the particular pastor whose morals he would make his pattern, and whose powers he feels most persuasive to righteousness, and is withdrawing from the ministry those temporal rewards, which proceeding from an approbation of their personal conduct, are an additional incitement to earnest and unremitting labors for the instruction of mankind; that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, more than our opinions in physics or geometry; that, therefore, the proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by laying upon him an incapacity of being called to the offices of trust and emolument, unless he profess or renounce this or that religious opinion, is depriving him injuriously of those privileges and advantages to which in common with his fellow citizens he has a natural right; that it tends also to corrupt the principles of that very religion it is meant to encourage, by bribing, with a monopoly of worldly honors and emoluments, those who will externally profess and conform to it; that though indeed these are criminal who do not withstand such temptation, yet neither are those innocent who lay the bait in their way; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles, on the supposition of their ill tendency, is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency, will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own; that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. Be it therefore enacted by the General Assembly, That no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burdened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in nowise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.
And though we well know this Assembly, elected by the people for the ordinary purposes of legislation only, have no powers equal to our own and that therefore to declare this act irrevocable would be of no effect in law, yet we are free to declare, and do declare, that the rights hereby asserted are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right.
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IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. We, whose names are underwritten, the Loyal Subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, &c. Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the first Colony in the northern Parts of Virginia; Do by these Presents, solemnly and mutually, in the Presence of God and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil Body Politick, for our better Ordering and Preservation, and Furtherance of the Ends aforesaid: And by Virtue hereof do enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions, and Officers, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general Good of the Colony; unto which we promise all due Submission and Obedience. IN WITNESS whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape-Cod the eleventh of November, in the Reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, Anno Domini; 1620.
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Edward by the grace of God King of England...

Henry by the grace of God King of England, lord of Ireland, duke of Normandy and Aquitaine and count of Anjou sends greetings to his archbishops, bishops, abbots, priors, earls, barons, sheriffs, reeves, ministers and all his bailiffs and faithful men inspecting the present charter. Know that we, at the prompting of God and for the health of our soul and the souls of our ancestors and successors, for the glory of holy Church and the improvement of our realm, freely and out of our good will have given and granted to the archbishops, bishops, abbots, priors, earls, barons and all of our realm these liberties written below to hold in our realm of England in perpetuity.

In the first place we grant to God...
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Wonder where they're going with these...
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