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Old 11-27-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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So if Powell didn't support Palin it had to be because Palin wasn't Black and Obama was?

Now that's playing the race card.
They played the race card on Powell from the beginning.

As soon as he looked like he was gonna vote for Obama, Limbaugh went nuts. Dedicated a whole show to the issue. The theme was "Powell is voting for Obama because he's black." It's not like they were trying to hide it. They kicked his ass off the plantation almost immediatedly. Once Rush (who is the most powerful Republican in recent history) blew the whistle, they all got in line.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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So if Powell didn't support Palin it had to be because Palin wasn't Black and Obama was?

Now that's playing the race card.
No where else did Powell rip down another conservative as he did Palin who was running against a black man? If the shoe fits... and it fits well.

Powell did not have to say a thing but he chose to support Barrack Obama by ripping down Palin. I didn't see Powell ever endorse another democrat ever other than Obama.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Amazing how quick you guys turn on black folks that leave the plantation. Of course, i try to warn these folks before they go over there, but they never listen until it's too late.

But since you guys decided to put Powell back in his place after he said he would vote for Obama, seems as if he's been feeling more freedom to critisize the right wing.
Oh please drop your BS, I'd vote for Powell for President any day if given the chance. Powell has been attacked just like Rice, they're both treated like rejects by many black Americans who couldn't possibly comprehend a black person not voting for Democrats.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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They played the race card on Powell from the beginning.

As soon as he looked like he was gonna vote for Obama, Limbaugh went nuts. Dedicated a whole show to the issue. The theme was "Powell is voting for Obama because he's black." It's not like they were trying to hide it. They kicked his ass off the plantation almost immediatedly. Once Rush (who is the most powerful Republican in recent history) blew the whistle, they all got in line.
I remember listening to that episode in my car three years ago. I was running errands around town when he essentially called Powell a racist. I was so disgusted with him, and the whole conservative movement after that because I knew he wouldn't be called out, but instead be defended and echoed by conservatives--by the same hypocrites who wrap themselves in the flag, denounce our (liberals') patriotism and claim to support our troops, then turn on one of our generals with that kind of vitriol. I think that was the day I lost the last shred of respect or allegiance I had for American conservatism.

Oh, and Powell's right. Americans are pragmatic people. We don't like extremists. We like solutions.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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They played the race card on Powell from the beginning.

As soon as he looked like he was gonna vote for Obama, Limbaugh went nuts. Dedicated a whole show to the issue. The theme was "Powell is voting for Obama because he's black." It's not like they were trying to hide it. They kicked his ass off the plantation almost immediatedly. Once Rush (who is the most powerful Republican in recent history) blew the whistle, they all got in line.
Lots of political naivete not only on this thread but on others.

Like or not political parties expect loyalty, especially from one of the leaders. The general rule is that if you can't support a particular candidate, especially for President/Vice-President, and they haven't advocated something crazy like repeal of the 13th Amendment, you keep your mouth shut. And you certainly don't endorse the opponent. Not if you want to remain a leader in the party.

As a counterpoint look what the Democrats, and many of the liberals posting in this very thread, did to and said about Lieberman when he supported McCain. The only difference ws that Lieberman had an office to defend and Powell didn't.

It's the height of hypocrisy to ***** about the Republicans ignoring and ditching Powell while the Democrats did the exact same thing to Lieberman with much more official vitriol.


A note: Rush Limbaugh is not now , nor ever has been, a Republican Party official or officeholder. First and foremost he's an entertainer who lives and dies by ratings. At one time he was a rock 'n' roll DJ.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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Colin Powell has become a democrat because we have a President who is black. If Obama were white would he have attacked Palin? No. It is a different game now for Powell as now a black man is in the white house. Too bad Colin Powell does not support Herman Cain who is a tea party member from long ago. It just so happens that Obama came on the scene before Cain and Obama actually is in the White House.That is the difference. That is the only reason Powell is speaking out against a conservative group like the tea party.

Powell was the one to ditch the Republicans. It was his words that made that a fact.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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Colin who?
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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Lots of political naivete not only on this thread but on others. Yea, on your part.

Like or not political parties expect loyalty, especially from one of the leaders. The general rule is that if you can't support a particular candidate, especially for President/Vice-President, and they haven't advocated something crazy like repeal of the 13th Amendment, you keep your mouth shut. And you certainly don't endorse the opponent. Not if you want to remain a leader in the party.

As a counterpoint look what the Democrats, and many of the liberals posting in this very thread, did to and said about Lieberman when he supported McCain. The only difference ws that Lieberman had an office to defend and Powell didn't.

It's the height of hypocrisy to ***** about the Republicans ignoring and ditching Powell while the Democrats did the exact same thing to Lieberman with much more official vitriol.


A note: Rush Limbaugh is not now , nor ever has been, a Republican Party official or officeholder. First and foremost he's an entertainer who lives and dies by ratings. At one time he was a rock 'n' roll DJ.
Bullsh*t. Limbaugh is the most powerful Republican in the party. He has consistently backed down one conservative after another with impunity. Witness the Michael Steele incident. Limbaugh's power lies in the fact that he DOESN'T run for office. Talk about political naivete?

We went after Lieberman because he lost his primary fair and square. The Democratic Party paid good damn money to get him the victory in his primary, gave him an endorsement, and everything else. It's not the national Democrats fault that he lost that primary because the Democrats in Connecticut didn't want him. Once he lost his primary, it was the DUTY of Democrats to support his opponent since he lost.

So he ran as an independent, and won. Great. But then, he decided to turn on the party simply because he lost his primary when the party supported him in his primary.

Furthermore, he just couldn't help himself. Supporting John McCain was fine...his right to do. But he decided to trash Obama in the election while still hoping to hold on to his choice committee assignments given to him by the Democratic Party even though he was no longer in the party. Well guess what? Obama won!! Lieberman's ass was hanging out there and Harry Reid was gonna put on a steel boot and kick it as hard as he could, and i wish like hell he would've.

The ONLY reason why Reid didn't relegate him to the status of a backbencher was because Obama intervened and asked Reid not to demote him. In other words, the only magnanimity Lieberman ever received was from Obama himself, otherwise, he'd be a nobody in the Senate.

So don't preach to me about Lieberman.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Lots of political naivete not only on this thread but on others.

Like or not political parties expect loyalty, especially from one of the leaders. The general rule is that if you can't support a particular candidate, especially for President/Vice-President, and they haven't advocated something crazy like repeal of the 13th Amendment, you keep your mouth shut. And you certainly don't endorse the opponent. Not if you want to remain a leader in the party.

As a counterpoint look what the Democrats, and many of the liberals posting in this very thread, did to and said about Lieberman when he supported McCain. The only difference ws that Lieberman had an office to defend and Powell didn't.

It's the height of hypocrisy to ***** about the Republicans ignoring and ditching Powell while the Democrats did the exact same thing to Lieberman with much more official vitriol.


A note: Rush Limbaugh is not now , nor ever has been, a Republican Party official or officeholder. First and foremost he's an entertainer who lives and dies by ratings. At one time he was a rock 'n' roll DJ.
What made Limbaugh (who aligns himself with the conservative movement and the GOP) so vile is that he and other conservatives constantly go on about how they support "our men and women in uniform" until one of those soldiers votes differently from them. After that they're called phony soldiers, racists, turncoats and traitors. That's what pisses me off more than anything.

What the hell did Limbaugh ever do to defend this country?? Did he ever put his life on the line for our liberties? No, he just sat behind a microphone his whole career fomenting hatred among the American populace and lodging cheap shots at others including the armed forces--and he has the gall to hurl insults at soldiers whose crime was only voting for people that HE didn't approve of. That man is a scoundrel who uses patriotism as his last refuge.
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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Colin Powell has become a democrat because we have a President who is black. If Obama were white would he have attacked Palin? No. It is a different game now for Powell as now a black man is in the white house. Too bad Colin Powell does not support Herman Cain who is a tea party member from long ago. It just so happens that Obama came on the scene before Cain and Obama actually is in the White House.That is the difference. That is the only reason Powell is speaking out against a conservative group like the tea party.

Powell was the one to ditch the Republicans. It was his words that made that a fact.
So Powell joined the Democratic party? When did that happen?

And he attacked Palin because she's deficient.
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