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Old 11-29-2011, 09:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Is the Middle East going to be our 3rd Reich.
Hitler wanted North Africa in a bad way.

Looks like plans are on the table to capture North Africa and the Middle East.
This Pakistan deal, may be the tipping point.

I'm just guessing, but maybe the Iran President knows we want him out and replaced once again with our guy. DUH! He has good reason to not like our intent.

Live & let live.

Quit paying people to be our friends, so we can be all up in their business.
You would never have real friends and your enemies would play you like a fiddle.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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Didn't Hitler do Europe & North Africa, like we are doing the Middle East?
Good thing Technology has made it less bloody.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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Given the Middle East's resources (mostly crude oil and natural gas), the fact that it is the gateway to three continents, the fact it is near several important water ways (the Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, Suez Canal, etc.) and the fact that three major religions (including #1 and #2) trace their origins there and want control over various holy sites means that the rest of the world has no choice but to pay attention to the Middle East.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I suggest letting the current residents fight it out to their mutual exhaustion and then go in and kill the winners. That would give our oil men complete control of a rapidly declining resource.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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Hitler sent troops into North Africa to prop up Mussolini's army after major defeats by the British. This was a sideshow that diverted troops that were really needed in the invasion of Russia in 1941.
If Hitler had provided Rommel and the Afrika Korps with the troops and supplies he requested, the outcome of the war in North Sfrica may have been a German/Italian seizure of the Suez Canal, likely followed by a drive through Palestine and Iraq to hopefully link up with German Forces in the Caucasus. It may even have led to Turkey coming into the war on the Axis side.
Hitler was obsessed with the Russian campaign, however.

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Old 11-29-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Given the Middle East's resources (mostly crude oil and natural gas), the fact that it is the gateway to three continents, the fact it is near several important water ways (the Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, Suez Canal, etc.) and the fact that three major religions (including #1 and #2) trace their origins there and want control over various holy sites means that the rest of the world has no choice but to pay attention to the Middle East.


So the worlds nation's, owns the Middle East, or do we?
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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Hitler sent troops into North Africa to prop up Mussolini's army after major defeats by the British. This was a sideshow that diverted troops that were really needed in the invasion of Russia in 1941.
If Hitler had provided Rommel and the Afrika Korps with the troops and supplies he requested, the outcome of the war in North Sfrica may have been a German/Italian seizure of the Suez Canal, likely followed by a drive through Palestine and Iraq to hopefully link up with German Forces in the Caucasus. It may even have led to Turkey coming into the war on the Axis side.
Hitler was obsessed with the Russian campaign, however.


The Axis, didn't have the fuel it needed to keep it's army running.
How many oil wells are in Europe?
They were making synthetic fuel and it was not enough.
Guess what he wanted and needed badly.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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Not a single link in the entire thread. What is this exactly? An opinion of sorts?
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:05 AM
 
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Not a single link in the entire thread. What is this exactly? An opinion of sorts?


You need a link, to see what has happened in the Middle East, for 60 years?

The first sentence asks a question. and now you want a link.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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Didn't Hitler do Europe & North Africa, like we are doing the Middle East?
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Good thing Technology has made it less bloody.
Scale has made the modern conflicts less bloody. No war in histroy compares to WWII in scale or blood. Modern technology would make any current conflict of similar scale orders of magnitude more costly.
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