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Old 12-01-2011, 05:19 AM
 
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What does matter is that the divisive, polarizing tone of your rhetoric is cleaving a widening gulf, at this point as much visceral as philosophical, between the downtrodden and those best positioned to help them.
i LOL'ed at this one.

so trying to close his tax loopholes is "cleaving a widening gulf", between "the downtrodden" and "those best positioned to help them."

Threatening to take his ball and go home, if the political winds don't blow his way. hah. What a class act, here, and a true American patriot.

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Old 12-01-2011, 05:21 AM
 
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The divisiveness comes from the right. They insist that they have all answers to all problems and that everyone who does not agree is a commie, marxist, etc.
The right blasts away at everyone and then blames Obama for it.
The right, with black and white views of everything, is not open to other opinions except their own.
For horrible, awful, divisive rhetoric the right is exceptional.
Where has the right ever shown any willingness to consider the opinions of anyone else? They don't.
For the right to accuse anyone of divisiveness is like Al Capone being outraged about criminals.
If the left wing solutions happen to coincide with commie/marxist plans, what are we supposed to? Not call them what they are because your feelings might get hurt?

Maybe if you'd stop trying to "transform" america fom the great country that it is, then you'd stop supporting dividing this country.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:24 AM
 
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i LOL'ed at this one.

so trying to close his tax loopholes is "cleaving a widening gulf", between "the downtrodden" and "those best positioned to help them."

Threatening to take his ball and go home, if the political winds don't blow his way. hah. What a class act, here, and a true American patriot.

Why is it every left winger response thinks this guy is talking about "closing loopholes" even though he didnt at all discuss that? Do we have to run around and get talking points from other posters before responding because you cant read his statement, and comprehend them?

Furthermore, if Obama has spent the last 3 years attempting to close these loopholes, I'd rate him a F-, considering Obama CREATED MORE of them.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:26 AM
 
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The ironic part about the left wing brats supporting Obama's "side" in all of this is that they are blissfully ignorant to the FACT that Obama has done NOTHING to improve the lot of the "poor." He has only brought more people and businesses down with his idiotic policies.

Flaming rhetoric from Oblama is enough for his supporters. Results don't matter.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Visvaldis View Post
The divisiveness comes from the right. They insist that they have all answers to all problems and that everyone who does not agree is a commie, marxist, etc.
The right blasts away at everyone and then blames Obama for it.
The right, with black and white views of everything, is not open to other opinions except their own.
For horrible, awful, divisive rhetoric the right is exceptional.
Where has the right ever shown any willingness to consider the opinions of anyone else? They don't.
For the right to accuse anyone of divisiveness is like Al Capone being outraged about criminals.
Your statements above discribes Obama to a tee.... You will know me by who I surround myself with.[Marxists Socialists]

Obama blasts everyone then blames Bush.

The only opinion Obama is interested in is his own.[No compromise doesn't even see the people he appointed]

Divisive rhetoric comes from Obama's mouth daily [ WE ARE NOW LAZY and too many others to post]
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Just so I understand this guy's point...trying to close loopholes which companies exploit to pay no taxes and balancing the tax code so millionaires don't end up paying less percentage of their salaries than middle class workers is deemed class warfare...but those same people arguing that it's class warfare wanting to cut the programs the poor and middle class depend upon, dismantle union rights, and repeal the law that gives healthcare to those that need it, is not?
Looks like you didn't READ his letter, because you missed the point so badly.

Oh, that bit about "millionaires" paying less than their secretaries is just a great example of obama's FALSE class war rhetoric. Buffett's secretary does NOT pay more than him.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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i LOL'ed at this one.

so trying to close his tax loopholes is "cleaving a widening gulf", between "the downtrodden" and "those best positioned to help them."

Threatening to take his ball and go home, if the political winds don't blow his way. hah. What a class act, here, and a true American patriot.

Wait! You think obama's class war rhetoric applies to just closing loopholes?
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Your statements above discribes Obama to a tee.... You will know me by who I surround myself with.[Marxists Socialists]

Obama blasts everyone then blames Bush.

The only opinion Obama is interested in is his own.[No compromise doesn't even see the people he appointed]

Divisive rhetoric comes from Obama's mouth daily [ WE ARE NOW LAZY and too many others to post]
Isn't that the truth? We have never, ever had a president that deliberately sets one segment of the population against others to try and get himself re-elected.

His problem is that it's not working and his horrible, unprecedented rhetoric is turning people off in droves.

This is NOT the HopeAndChange they voted for.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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Wait! You think obama's class war rhetoric applies to just closing loopholes?
not just loopholes, but i think that's a big part of why this financier is throwing a temper tantrum.

i didn't see anything substantial in that rant, just a bunch of rhetoric. it was embarassing to think that someone who made so much money over at goldman sachs, and grad of columbia business school, would be such a mindless blowhard. I guess when your firm has the inside scoop on what's going on at the Fed, you don't really need to be skilled, or do anything productive, in order to get rich.

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Old 12-01-2011, 06:10 AM
 
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Looks like you didn't READ his letter, because you missed the point so badly.

Oh, that bit about "millionaires" paying less than their secretaries is just a great example of obama's FALSE class war rhetoric. Buffett's secretary does NOT pay more than him.

I'm pretty sure Buffett paid less percentage of his gross income than his secretary because most of it was taxed at a much less rate.

And it's funny how the letter said for Obama to tone down the message but says nothing to the Republicans to tone it down as well. From day one, Obama has been called a communist, socialist, fascist etc and that party has said their sole mission above all else is to make him a 1 term President. In fact, I would even argue that it's the Republicans that have made this debate so rancorous. Lets' face it, everyone hates taxes but they will continue to go up at some point in time and go down at others. Negotiation is what made this country great and gave us a government ahead of all others. By not negotiating, it creates a stalemate and in turn the environment we have right now where each side is pointing fingers at each other.

So I understand his letter but I don't agree with it...not when the alternative is the deep cuts Republicans are asking for that hurt the poor and middle class. I understand he doesn't want another 2 or 3% of his income to go to taxes. I'm sure it will hit him in the wallet but I ask you if that hit on his wallet is as detrimental as the hit on the wallets of the working class that the Republicans have been asking for. Again, negotiation can bring this all to an end and the US is waiting for Republicans to step up.
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