Atheists/Agnostics, Do You Celebrate Christmas? (paycheck, concealed, Maine, jobs)

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Originally Posted by NJBest

There's nothing wrong with celebrating Hanukkah. What I am saying is that Americans have adopted Christmas as a social holiday even if they are not Christians because the American practices associated with it have infiltrated our society due to commercialism, the fact that there is a significant amount of Christians, and the fact that Christmas is an important holiday.

Hanukkah, however, has not infiltrated society as much due to the very low population of Jewish people in the US, and the fact that it is not as important as Christmas.

Oh, I know. My post was really meant for the one person here who is bound and determined to declare all atheists fair-weather fans as opposed to his/her true, pure beliefs because he/she doesn't celebrate false holidays.

Bah humbug.

[NJBest]

Originally Posted by ChocLot

Nope, not a poor example. It just doesn't fit within your rationalization for celebrating Christmas.

Hanukkah involves gift-giving and decorating. It looks like a fun holiday. But I don't take part in it because I'm not Jewish. Celebrating Hanukkah would not make me Jewish, but why would I celebrate a holiday that is based on a religion for which I don't belong (or as in the case of atheists, is connected to a religion that I am against)?

As I mentioned in my earlier post, Hanukkah has not been commercialized and turned into a social holiday. That's why majority of Americans don't adopt it. The reason for this is because there's practically no Jewish people in the United States to pass the culture onto Americans. Also, for the Jewish people here, it's not an important holiday. Many don't make a bid deal of it.

Society as a whole has commercialized Christmas. It's on TV, in all the stores, and there's Santa everywhere which draws in the kids. Non-Christians are not celebrating the birth of Christ.... they are celebrating gifts, eggnog and cookies.

Do you eat Bagels? Why? Bagels are a Jewish custom and you are Christians. It's a stupid argument, but it's one you're trying to use.

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

It is a very poor example.

We'll have to agree to disagree.



Ah. I was mocking the person I quoted. I just repeated the hatred and vitriol that ChocLot showed me to make a point.

I did not make the post that you were mocking. Please go back and check.

And besides, if you READ my post, I stated that my family with the exception of me are Sikhs. I am an atheist. So no, I do NOT believe in a sky daddy.

Nah, just the birth of his son.You even celebrate it and everything.



You got it! LOL. I have not had this much fun with selective religious people in a long time. Selective reading and comprehensions. Just like how Muslims and Christians selectively follow their Bible and Koran as well.



You cannot understand such a simple concept. So you think Christians in India should not celebrate Diwali? They should just sit at home as many others celebrate? Yeah. Did not think so.

Yes, why not. Didn't realize that your beliefs should fall by the wayside in the face of a good celebration. It's total hypocrisy, IMO.

Answers in blue.

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by UnexpectedError

Where is your thread chastising all non-pagans for participating in Halloween?

I don't celebrate Halloween.

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Originally Posted by ChocLot

I don't celebrate Halloween.

Didn't say you did, but what about the majority of American Christians? They do. Are they hypocrites? Or are they just enjoying a harmless, fun tradition because it's what they grew up doing and because it's part of the fabric of American culture?

[Theliberalvoice]

Originally Posted by ChocLot

Answers in blue.

Well too bad. Whether you like it or not, the holiday Christians hijacked is being "hijacked" by non Christians.

It is your choice to celebrate whatever whenever. I am not celebrating anything other than the festive feeling of the season. My parents never once told me "Oh hunny. We are celebrating Christmas because of Jesus Christ."

So you are wrong. Sorry you cannot understand such a simple concept but it really is not my problem. Maybe you can go pray and god can explain it to you.

Originally Posted by UnexpectedError

Didn't say you did, but what about the majority of American Christians? They do. Are they hypocrites? Or are they just enjoying a harmless, fun tradition because it's what they grew up doing and because it's part of the fabric of American culture?

You got it. Some simple things are so hard for the people who are blinded religiously.

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by NJBest

As I mentioned in my earlier post, Hanukkah has not been commercialized and turned into a social holiday. That's why majority of Americans don't adopt it. The reason for this is because there's practically no Jewish people in the United States to pass the culture onto Americans. Also, for the Jewish people here, it's not an important holiday. Many don't make a bid deal of it.

Society as a whole has commercialized Christmas. It's on TV, in all the stores, and there's Santa everywhere which draws in the kids. Non-Christians are not celebrating the birth of Christ.... they are celebrating gifts, eggnog and cookies.

Do you eat Bagels? Why? Bagels are a Jewish custom and you are Christians. It's a stupid argument, but it's one you're trying to use.

You say Hanukkah is not a big deal because to US Jews it's not a big deal. Does that mean you think Christmas is a big deal to Christians?

Doesn't matter about commercialization. It does not negate the fact that Christmas is a Christian holiday that signifies the birth of Christ. Will you deny this?

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

Well too bad. Whether you like it or not, the holiday Christians hijacked is being "hijacked" by non Christians.

It is your choice to celebrate whatever whenever. I am not celebrating anything other than the festive feeling of the season. My parents never once told me "Oh hunny. We are celebrating Christmas because of Jesus Christ."

So you are wrong. Sorry you cannot understand such a simple concept but it really is not my problem. Maybe you can go pray and god can explain it to you.



You got it. Some simple things are so hard for the people who blinded religiously.

Nah, non-Christians just want to have their cake and eat it too. Really sad that beliefs crumble in the face of an opportunity to have fun.

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by UnexpectedError

Didn't say you did, but what about the majority of American Christians? They do. Are they hypocrites? Or are they just enjoying a harmless, fun tradition because it's what they grew up doing and because it's part of the fabric of American culture?

Do you have proof of this...Christians celebrating Halloween?

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Originally Posted by ChocLot

Nah, non-Christians just want to have their cake and eat it too. Really sad that beliefs crumble in the face of an opportunity to have fun.

WTF?

Do you think that only Christians should be able to have fun? Is that what this is all about?

There's a difference between celebrating Christmas in a religious and a non-religious sense (and, to tell you the truth, I don't know too many people who call themselves Christians who celebrate it in a religious sense at all). Whether I as an Agnostic celebrate Christmas or not has nothing to do with a belief in anything or a lack thereof, nor is it any of your business for that matter.