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^^The quote was in reference to the simplistic solution: "adoption". Just like "sterilization" is simplistc. We do need to go beyond simplistic nonsense.
I also need to edit that post. I sent it off in haste. My apologies.
So what? What does the total size of the population have to do with the per-capita cost?
To compare a diverse (racially, culturally, religiously, politically) nation of 300 million to a relatively homogeneous nation approx 1/60th of the size proves absolutely nothing. It works for them. Great. That doesn't mean it'll work for us. Completely different societies and people.
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^^The quote was in reference to the simplistic solution: "adoption". Just like "sterilization" is simplistc. We do need to go beyond simplistic nonsense.
Well I would still contend that the vast majority of unwanted pregnancies could be prevented. Birth control and protection is very effective. Adoption can pick up a portion of the remainder. Or get an abortion. I don't care.
To say "oh hey it'll be fine we'll just make stuff free" is the epitome of simplistic thinking.
A perhaps-useful consistency test for opponents of this kind of legislation is to check to make sure they also oppose 5 U.S.C. 6323 (a) and (b) (§ 6323. MILITARY LEAVE; RESERVES AND NATIONAL GUARDSMEN).
To compare a diverse (racially, culturally, religiously, politically) nation of 300 million to a relatively homogeneous nation approx 1/60th of the size proves absolutely nothing. It works for them. Great. That doesn't mean it'll work for us. Completely different societies and people.
Deflection! Do women of different ethnicites recover from delivery at different rates? The per-capita cost would be the same!
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To say "oh hey it'll be fine we'll just make stuff free" is the epitome of simplistic thinking.
Deflection! Do women of different ethnicites recover from delivery at different rates? The per-capita cost would be the same!
Speaking of simplistic, yours is about as simplistic as it gets. You act as if the entire system would be identical on a 1:1 basis per capita.
You're ignoring the larger issue. Collectivism in general may work to some extent in Norway. That hardly proves it will work to the same extent in the US. A simple look at the relationship between welfare and out of wedlock birth rates and the associated side effects of such reinforces this.
Many of you lefties want it both ways. Lax immigration rules, legalized drugs, etc. But then you want to tack on collectivism when it suits you. But you can't have it both ways.
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Perahps. Show me where I said that.
Show me where I said you said that. I'm just saying that his solution is no more simplistic than the one he's countering.
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