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Well, hothandz, I recently spent eight years living in a country with socialized medicine. My wife and I went to the doctor several times. Each time, we were seen right away, each time the doctor had time to listen to us, each time the doctor had time to inform us about diagnosis, prognosis, and treatment, each time we were treated with respect and by the professional we had come to see - not by some assistant.
On the other hand, our experience here in the US is that doctors don't have time for their patients. They barely have the time to tell you what is wrong with you. Instead of getting a work up by the physician, you spend more time with an assistant or nurse while your doctor only comes in for a brief and very hurried visit.
Sorry, in my book having no time for your patients increases the risk much more than having plenty of time.
I can only speculate why US doctors don't have the time - I suppose their are too busy making money.
You can't see that adding fro 30 million to 50 million people to the base that has to be treated by what doctors are left after the shift which doesn't allow them to make all that money you talk about, would have anything to do with anything. Right?
Very true, but many here can't see what you say as true. Maybe they all think that old poops like me won't be overloading the system since the death panels will hold us back from getting care.
Roy, you are supporting some one who desires to get rid of socialized medicine...the system that helps keep you alive?
That's actually kind of funny. I kind of hope you have the misfortune to experience what you want.
Women should no longer assume they will give birth in hospital with a doctor on hand.
A report by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists suggests that as many as a third of all women should give birth 'without a doctor going anywhere near them'.
It warns that currently there are too many maternity units but not enough top-level consultants able to intervene should there be problems during the birth.
Big push for home births: Too many babies are being born in hospital, say doctors
Maternity wards are 'not necessarily the safer option'
Third of women should give birth without seeing a doctor, say medical experts
"The survey surmises that long wait times in Boston could be the result in part of the 2006 health reform initiative that requires nearly every Massachusetts resident to get health insurance."
"The survey surmises"
SURMISE v.: Suppose that something is true without having evidence to confirm it
"could be the result"
No, you posted it and I'll take it up with you.
There IS no proving it wrong as it supplies NOTHING that supports the theory that socialized medicine was responsible for the changes you allege. IMeaningless by the very definition of "surmises". It's pure speculation.
As I've said, MEANINGLESS in the context it was posted.
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I posted a survey. You made a claim about the numbers. GO PROVE YOUR CLAIM. As a result of the survey came to their conclusion about the wait times in Boston. If you can prove it's not so then do it. Ranting and raving only shows you are just throwing crap against the wall hoping it sticks like usual.
We have private health insurance. I am waiting three months to see a specialist. In the US. Yes, great system!
Maybe, once we get Obamacare going, there won't be enough of those specialists left for you to get in for less than 4 months. Many doctors say they won't stay around having bureaucrats determine what they can charge and tell them who they can see. Think about this, for a minute or two.
Well if I was the only one getting healthcare I bet the error rate would drop dramatically and there would be no waiting for anything. Screw all you guys.
Seriously HH, you can't win an arguement simply by stating that the fewer people who have access the better off the rest of us are.
The cure for you patient/doctor ratio nightmare? More doctors.
Well if I was the only one getting healthcare I bet the error rate would drop dramatically and there would be no waiting for anything. Screw all you guys.
Seriously HH, you can't win an arguement simply by stating that the few people who have access the better off the rest of us are.
I'm not saying that.
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