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Old 12-10-2011, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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According to whom??

Life was brutal and short?

proove it...I doubt all of what you just wrote...

And think it's just revisionist his story being told....

Why would Indian life be any more or less brutal than any other place or culture around the world at the time?

They knew how to hunt, cook, had plenty of resorces...

Nice beautiful florida summers, nice Southern California fall...no germs, no diseases...seems to me they had it pretty good...better than many even by todays standards...

So what was so 'brutal' about that??

Heck, I think life was a picnic for them...they had 1000's of miles of open clean beaches, clean none poluted lagoons, spring water, plenty of buffalo and other game, plenty of fish, deer, elk, quail...



And no license needed, no taxes, no private property...air was clean....sounds like heaven to me...
You obviously have not read any history.

 
Old 12-10-2011, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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But you forget or seem to leave out...they had 'each other'...

They weren't trying to 'do it along' as induvisuals, like on some reality show...

They had each other...worked together to accomplish tasks in villiages or towns from 200 to 10,000....ok....ok....

And if it got cold, they simply followed the warm weather...like the birds do...they migrated...or at least had that option...

Their brain was no different than yours, and they too had common sense...
That's why they survived for so long, and had to teach the pilgrims how to plant corn and hunt...

When the pilgrims arrived, the indian weren't hurting for nothing...

Plenty of food, animals, game...

but I will admit...the right of passage for young men was probably brutal...as it is with modern day gangs...and the mob...and fraternal orders...and even the military academies and regular military...

Some things never change...men will be men...
You have no clue as to the life of the early American Indian, do you? And probably think the same for the African tribesman, it was not an easy life and you should not comment unless you educate yourself on it.
 
Old 12-10-2011, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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And there is the point of it. Democracy can only exist under White Rule, or at least that is what the right wouold have you believe. Whites are not the majority in Hawaii or California but who wants to deal in facts. Apartheidt
 
Old 12-10-2011, 07:12 AM
 
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Great point. Seemed to be doing fine before white people got here.

Cliff dwellings to keep our neighbors from killing us will be great. I also hear human flesh actually taste like chicken.
 
Old 12-10-2011, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Oh yeah,that hypocrite.
He didn't want certain groups to immigrate and thought blacks were 3/5 human.
Yet he had sex with a 3/5 human female?
Wonder if he knows he commited bestiality?
You really need to read history to understand the 3/5 th ruling.....This is from Cristian answers.net
Read and learn instead of spouting false information.
As Professor Walter Williams explains:
“It was slavery's opponents who succeeded in restricting the political power of the South by allowing them to count only three-fifths of their slave population in determining the number of congressional representatives. The three-fifths of a vote provision applied only to slaves, not to free blacks in either the North or South.”

Founding Fathers and Slavery - Were all of America's Founding Fathers racists, pro-slavery, and hypocrites?
 
Old 12-10-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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You have no clue as to the life of the early American Indian, do you? And probably think the same for the African tribesman, it was not an easy life and you should not comment unless you educate yourself on it.
I see you either conveniently or more like, ignorantly left out the barbarism and the violence that was rife in European cultures.

You left out the ignorant, backward practices they believed in, while railing against the African and Native American cultures.

That's the problem with some "white racialist", they think everyone else is dumb enough to believe that while every other culture of the world were backward and barbaric, white people looked and lived like the "fairy people" out of the "Lord of the Rings"..LOL
 
Old 12-10-2011, 08:02 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Yea, something like when blacks blame all of their problems on 400 yrs of oppression by whitey , talk about hypocrisy.
I am not black. But I do know something about history. Blacks have only recently begun to have some level of access to good jobs and money making opportunities. Haven't you ever seen any civil rights era news clips? Do you honestly think that they had a "fair shot" at many opportunities? There are many successful whites who got there by merit, but there are also a lot of them who got successful just because of familial relations or just being white. The somewhat level playing field has only been in existence for some 40 years, and it's always being attacked at the same time.
 
Old 12-10-2011, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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You really need to read history to understand the 3/5 th ruling.....This is from Cristian answers.net
Read and learn instead of spouting false information.
As Professor Walter Williams explains:
“It was slavery's opponents who succeeded in restricting the political power of the South by allowing them to count only three-fifths of their slave population in determining the number of congressional representatives. The three-fifths of a vote provision applied only to slaves, not to free blacks in either the North or South.”

Founding Fathers and Slavery - Were all of America's Founding Fathers racists, pro-slavery, and hypocrites?
Did you know this was b.s. when you posted it, or you thought everyone else was as ignorant of history as this post suggests???

It was a compromise made by northerners because the racists of the South wanted their cake and the ability to eat it too.

The Southern slave holder wanted the black slave counted as a whole person, in order that white slave holding states would receive an unfair and numerical advantage when representation in the house was important and during national elections.
However, the slave owner made it abundantly clear that although he wanted all his slaves counted as citizens, that slave would enjoy NONE of the benefits of citizenship whatsoever!!

The slave holders also wanted the extra tax revenue that the increased (inflated) number of citizens would bring to the south.

Suggesting that the Northern states were some diabolical species of racists and the South was this bastion of enlightened thinking nobility, is ignorant in the least and intellectually dishonest at best.


University of Pennsylvania history professor Rick Beeman
They put [the three-fifths clause] there because delegates from the Southern states would never have agreed to the Constitution unless some weight was given to their slave populations in the apportionment of representation. They wanted slaves counted 100%, but when they saw that they could not get that, they settled for 3/5. The practical effect of that, far from making easier to abolish slavery, made it more difficult. It gave added weight to southern political power in Congress, it inflated Southern power in the apportioning of electoral votes, which led to a succession of Southern presidents. Ironically, the best thing that could have been done with respect to making it easier to abolish slavery would have been to have given slaves NO weight in the apportioning of representation.


To make matters worse, despite the new Congress's general Article I, section 8 power over international commerce, section 9 barred Congress from ending the international slave trade before 1808. By that time, the Deep South hoped to have enough extra muscle in Congress, based on white migration and slave importation, to thwart any possible antislavery constitutional amendments and perhaps even to weaken any proposed ban on further slave importation. Unlike every other clause in the entire Constitution, the 1808 date itself was exempt from constitutional amendment under Article V.
 
Old 12-10-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Altoona, PA
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Umm...no, just no.

Hispanics are the futherst thing from being White. I'm sure many would like to be though so they can become "legal" citizens of this country, but the reality is they just don't care if they are here illegally or not as long as they're getting a free education, plentiful jobs, & medical care.
False.

There are many "white" Hispanics in this country. Many of South Florida's Cuban-American population are white, some having German or other non-Spanish ancestry. Even Mexico itself has large numbers of people of French or Irish origin and let's not even start on South America, which is just as diverse (in terms of people of European ancestry) as North America, only the predominant languages are Spanish or Portuguese.
 
Old 12-10-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Yea, something like when blacks blame all of their problems on 400 yrs of oppression by whitey , talk about hypocrisy.
I never blame all the problems black people have on white people, only stupid people would make that statement...

However, only someone equally stupid will suggest that black people had the same opportunity at decent housing, schooling, business opportunities and career selection as white people during the making and history of this society.
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