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That's just an accounting issue, the US also provides healthcare to the needy. The hospital have to accept all patients regardless of ability to pay. The difference is that here, the hospital or state have to pickup the tab and use tax money or in many states they just owe more money.
In other countries, where the taxes are much higher, the cost of healthcare is redistributed.
OK, so let's change "own" to "have". The point is the same.
Many things renters "have" are provided by landlords for marketing purposes because landlords market their properties to the mass market and not to the poor. IOW, poor renters who have those things have them only because they have become mainstream middle class products.
if you have a whole village that runs barefoot and lives in huts sleeps in hammocks and shares the pig for dinner- they are not living in poverty - if you have a 5 yr old going to kinder with no food in his belly- no well fitting clothes - no warm jacket- with a cough and gram is raising him with her $400 SS check in a shack in GA with little lighting - to go sit with better off kids who have much better- -that's poverty. If you see kids in tatted clothes who live in the streets and harvest the trash mountains for foods and clothes- that's poverty - see babies dying in a desert in Africa where there is no food or water,,, poverty- homeless teens right here in FL trying to graduate from highs school sleeping where he can begging for some change- that's poverty.
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Many things renters "have" are provided by landlords for marketing purposes because landlords market their properties to the mass market and not to the poor. IOW, poor renters who have those things have them only because they have become mainstream middle class products.
No, they don't. The first and only apartment I ever lived in with a dishwasher was my senior year in college. I paid out the nose for that apartment. The only reason I did was because my girlfriend and I were moving in together, and she had more expensive tastes. Generally I slummed it up with roommates who likewise didn't care about dishwashers or granite counter tops or having a washer/dryer in the unit. They pay for it as part of their rent. A/C here in Sacramento? Yes. That's almost impossible to find. In the Bay Area or Seattle? No. It's even rarer than dishwashers.
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Food deserts are not a myth.
I agree I live in one in western AZ. Both a Real desert and a food desert. We have to drive 2 hours to Flagstaff to get a decent dinner other than fast food or greasy spoons where you can hear your arteries hardening.
That's just an accounting issue, the US also provides healthcare to the needy. The hospital have to accept all patients regardless of ability to pay. The difference is that here, the hospital or state have to pickup the tab and use tax money or in many states they just owe more money.
In other countries, where the taxes are much higher, the cost of healthcare is redistributed.
When the hospital finally addresses the issue that the person could not afford to pre-emptively deal with, the costs of treatment will have risen remarkably by that time AND taxpayer money being used to re-imburse the Hospital IS the very definition of WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION.
Fram Filter guy said it best: "pay me now, or pay me later".
We can't judge between countries etc. We live in a country where by appearance our poverty is well off. I say this often to people who try to rationalise that poverty in America isn't bad, i say we live in a good country in alot of ways we can stand on a street corner and speakout against our president or government and not have a soldier comeup and shoot us in the head or beat the hell out of us for doing that. But we have other forms of oppressions.
Thou no one in America really knows what its like to live in the kind of poverty that some countries face. Lets not forget that oppression is oppression. Hopelessnes and fear feels the same for the first time battered wife as the battered wife thats gets hit with a baseball bat after being in a longterm absive relationship.
Point being yes our poor have t.v sets etc, but the emotional impact is the same. Some times its worse here in America because socially you know this is the land of oppertunities etc.
At least this has been my experience in the past.
This emotional impact has been made worse because so many Americans have been taught to actively hate the poor. And, no, hate is not too strong of a term. I doubt that this is the case in very many other developed countries, if any, to anywhere near the extent that it is here.
This emotional impact has been made worse because so many Americans have been taught to actively hate the poor. And, no, hate is not too strong of a term. I doubt that this is the case in very many other developed countries, if any, to anywhere near the extent that it is here.
its one of the things which makes america truly unique
another is how the working poor in america often demand that they take a bullet so the 1% dont have to ( by voting republican they confirm this ) , that is utterly unique to americans
I've lived in East Asia for over 30 years and have seen people who are destitute.
But, if you are poor in the US, it is no comfort that their are people poorer than you elsewhere.
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