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Starting in 2006 Under Bush, several gun walking programs took place (Operation Wide Receiver, Project Gunrunner), more than 650 guns walked, without any tracking devices. Fact is ZERO people were charged while Bush was in office.
Much of what you posted here is a lie, during the Bush program there were no tracking devices, the agents were not working hand in hand with Mexico, only reporting to them when a gun crossed the border, few if any of the guns were recovered, there is no way to know what deaths these 650 plus guns caused because they were not tracked.
gotta luv how you wing nut luv a project when an R starts it but recoil when a Dem continues the same policies.
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thePR...... What was done under the BUsh administration was in cooperation with the Mexican government. The weapons in question had tracking devices and for the most part were recovered. This is different than handing over weapons to gun runners, with no means of tracking and no involvement of the Mexican government. What happened during the bush administration with the operation you cite did not result in the number of deaths of mexican nationals, or the death of one of our own Border Patrol agents, and the numbers are still rising. What this president has done is to facilitate mass murder right here on our own border to not only those of a foreign land, but of our own citizens. Can you really not comprehend the difference?
Obama would throw Holder under the bus in a second to save his own hide.
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Then why doesn't he do it and decrease the surplus population. (holiday spirit)
For the same reason Clinton didn't dump Janet Reno: Holder's got the goods on Obama.
If Holder does step down, rest assured the deal's already been struck. Holder'll wind up in a very lucrative job. (Bah humbug.)
apparently Operation Gunrunner started in June of 2005 in Texas and quickly moved to Tucson, opened up project Wide Receiver, and grew from there. project Fast and Furious is actually an outgrowth of project wide receiver within the larger Operation gunrunner.
in the early days they were NOT eTracing the guns and the tech for that is not perfected yet, so claims that Bush project had eTracing are wingnut lies.
Imagine the liberal froth if Boooooosh had done this.
Exactly. This is a crime against the citizens of the US and is a particularly violent crime. It is sad, yet predictable, that the left would be willing to kill several people in order to achieve a political point. This obsession with gun control reveals that thier true intention is not to contain violence (as this act is the epitomy of careless violence), but to disarm the nation for political purposes.
Just another reason to give more money to the NRA and get the libs out of office permanently. The nation cannot survive too many more years of abject fiscal stupidity and attacks against civil liberties.
Agreed. However, crimes committed by liberals are not considered crimes by them. I am sure that most would still think it was a great idea to facilitate further gun legislation, regardless of the means
Ah yeah, something about the ends justify the means.
If we are to believe Holder, no one from him down knew about Fast and Furious. So the order must have come from above him, from the president. That would make Obama an accessory to murder. One American and hundreds of Mexicans have been killed with Obama's weapons. Many more will die in the future according to Holder. Someone has to be accountable. The buck stops at Obama.
Agreed! They both need to be in prison or possibly Gitmo.
Oh, lord....This is too funny and so obvious. The realization is starting to sink in that there isn't a single republican candidate on that crazy train who has a prayer of beating President Obama and you all are starting to pull out all these impeachment charges and attempts to not have his name on the state ballots and all the other grasping at straws that are showing up all over this forum because you are DESPERATE! You know you don't have a candidate who can win so let's try to get rid of President Obama some other way.
L M F A O
Oh yes, we are terrified of his 42% approval rating. hahahahaha.
this was a Bush program..... want to hold him accountable and throw him in prison for complicity in a murder?
Senator Schumer’s drawing of an equivalence between “tracing” in a controlled-delivery situation (Wide Receiver), and “tracing” in Fast & Furious is laughable. In a controlled delivery firearms case, guns are traced in the sense that agents closely and physically follow them — they don’t just note the serial numbers or other identifying markers. The agents are thus able to trace the precise path of the guns from, say, American dealers to straw purchasers to Mexican buyers.
To the contrary, Fast & Furious involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons. Fast & Furious Was . . . Bush’s Fault - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online
cc Enemy Country
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apparently Operation Gunrunner started in June of 2005 in Texas and quickly moved to Tucson, opened up project Wide Receiver, and grew from there. project Fast and Furious is actually an outgrowth of project wide receiver within the larger Operation gunrunner.
in the early days they were NOT eTracing the guns and the tech for that is not perfected yet, so claims that Bush project had eTracing are wingnut lies.
They were tracking the guns with federal agents. Like in a buy and bust you don't let the criminals get away with the drugs!
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i wonder...
