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Old 12-12-2011, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Seriously, I love everything about him. Vermont is very lucky to have him as their senator.

This ruling is a non event. It has done nothing to the balance of power.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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Did we start giving out Corporation death certificates when they fold up? no.
Does the coroner come out and do an autopsy? Because the corp could not have seen a doctor in six months and by law as a person they require an autopsy. :-)
Actually yes, its called a corporate certificates of dissolution, and they get filed upon the "death" of the corporation.

And the issue in question involves the LEGAL status of a Corporation, and yes, the LEGAL status of a corporation is that they are a person.

Congress deals with LAWS not imaginary scenarios you dream up.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Its been in our lawbooks since the early 1800's

Here is one such court case
FindLaw | Cases and Codes

The novel idea that this is something new is utterly astounding because it shows how uneducated most americans really are.. Sad to see some of them actually get elected into Congress

Quite a long piece. Would you please quote the highlights of this that support your opinion.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Its been in our lawbooks since the early 1800's

Here is one such court case
FindLaw | Cases and Codes

The novel idea that this is something new is utterly astounding because it shows how uneducated most americans really are.. Sad to see some of them actually get elected into Congress
The Federal Constitution of 1788 did not mention corporations.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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A history of Corporations and American law:

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When American colonists declared independence from England in 1776, they also freed themselves from control by English corporations that extracted their wealth and dominated trade. After fighting a revolution to end this exploitation, our country's founders retained a healthy fear of corporate power and wisely limited corporations exclusively to a business role. Corporations were forbidden from attempting to influence elections, public policy, and other realms of civic society.

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* Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.
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For 100 years after the American Revolution, legislators maintained tight controll of the corporate chartering process. Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate. Citizens governed corporations by detailing operating conditions not just in charters but also in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow.
History of Corporations (United States)
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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US code states

In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, unless the context indicates otherwise-- the words "person" and "whoever" include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals;

Its been this way for hundreds of years
I would hope you are not using the Rule of Construction as support for your false claim of applying full person hood on Corporations. That "honor" belongs to the partisan SC in 2010, when the SC overruled precedents from 1907 forward. Eventually, that will be corrected when there is a Court that holds the Law and Constitution Supreme, not Political Party.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Corporations are people, money is speech.

What a great ethic to live by.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Corporations are people, money is speech.

What a great ethic to live by.
Ethical or not, the courts agree.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Ethical or not, the courts agree.
Another HUGE reason for President Obama to get a second term! There could be as many as TWO Supreme Court seats needing to be appointed in the next four years and the only chance of getting Citizens United overturned is for a Democratic president to be filling those seats.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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Actually yes, its called a corporate certificates of dissolution, and they get filed upon the "death" of the corporation.
But they are obviously not people and they won't have the coroner out for an autopsy.

And the issue in question involves the LEGAL status of a Corporation, and yes, the LEGAL status of a corporation is that they are a person.
For the purpose of owning and legal stuff they have the same rights to function. If you have no rights you could not do business.

Congress deals with LAWS not imaginary scenarios you dream up.
They do monitor I would hope, when they do too much and business stops, that is where I have an issue.
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