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Someone need to tell you that congress has been run by democrats for 4+ years? someone needs to tell you the house is controlled by the right and the senate is filibuster proof Someone need to tell you that the senate is sitting on nearly 300 bills, and the senate is democratic? see above
You are actually making my point for me.. thanks..
The Senate is filibuster proof, but they are sitting on nearly THREE HUNDRED BILLS that they wont pass.. How the hell can you blame the GOP because the Senate, which is filibuster proof, and controlled by the Democrats, wont pass any bills
Someone need to tell you democrats have yet to pass a budget?the right controls the house where finance bills originate
WRONG AGAIN.. The House originates TAX bills.. not spending bills which can originte in either branch of Congress
Someone need to tell you that it was a democratic stimulus bill, designed to lower the gdp beginning in 2015? facts to back that up?
I have numerous times with CBO reports, right here on this thread.. I cant force you to read them if you wont..
Someone need to tell you that allowing people to keep more money, is in no way harmful to the economy? it is "who" you let keep the money, the wealthy just add it to the piles they have already, the working poor and middle class use it, putting it right back into the economy
Since the rich are actually keeping LESS of their money than they did a few years ago, your posting is just babble... Dont know the difference between effective, and marginal tax rate.. do you?
Why should I start with that when I can start with the people who are supposed to be the professionals? Are you capable of understanding that in every other profession it is the person who is paid for their service that is supposed to be the expert? Will I be expected to drive the bus when I buy a ticket?
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So basically one of the highest paid professions in country is the one field that expects their customer to be the expert.
In any major project, start with the goals that are easiest to accomplish. You are someone hungry and climbing an apple tree. Don't ignore the apples on the low branches to try and get the ones towards the top.
That is not the point the person made. It is no secret that we would rather have 21 months of job growth that saw an addition of 2.9 million jobs than 24 months of job losses that saw a subtraction of 8.8 million jobs. You're aware of these facts, right?
The point being made is that republicans would prefer that the economy stays down (and yes it is, even as it is recovering from one of the biggest financial debacles in history), if not get worse. It is their ticket to defeat Obama. How else do you think republicans can compete with likes of Newt and Romney? Are you telling me that these two represent the republican party at the core and the direction that the country needed in 2008. Seriously?
I did NOT miss the fact that you clipped off the citation that proves your EFFECTIVE tax rate claims are rank BS, as was much of the post I replied to. FYI the link to the 2010 report is embedded in the text below, see figure 5-8, page 154.
here it is again, deal with it;
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Someone needs to tell you that the effective tax rate on the top 1% actually increased during the bush years, not decreased? bs, it has done the exact opposite, effective taxation of the top 1% has been lowered during bush Quote:
the 2010 economic report of the president included a table that showed "thatthe effective tax rates that applied to high-income taxpayers reached their lowest levels in at least half a century in 2008." the table (labeled table 5-8) had data running back to 1960 and for both taxpayers earning at least $250,000 and taxpayers earning over $2 million. The table mirrors the piketty-saez data in that the 2008 levels are at or near lows for the period, with only the early 1990s coming close.
the EFFECTIVE tax rate on the top 1% cannot be going up when it is going down... you are puffing a bit too much, again. there is enough wrong with America without you inventing falsehoods.
Someone need to tell you that congress has been run by democrats for 4+ years? someone needs to tell you the house is controlled by the right and the senate is filibuster proof Someone need to tell you that the senate is sitting on nearly 300 bills, and the senate is democratic? see above
You are actually making my point for me.. thanks..
The Senate is filibuster proof, but they are sitting on nearly THREE HUNDRED BILLS that they wont pass.. How the hell can you blame the GOP because the Senate, which is filibuster proof, and controlled by the Democrats, wont pass any bills
Someone need to tell you democrats have yet to pass a budget?the right controls the house where finance bills originate
WRONG AGAIN.. The House originates TAX bills.. not spending bills which can originte in either branch of Congress
Someone need to tell you that it was a democratic stimulus bill, designed to lower the gdp beginning in 2015? facts to back that up?
I have numerous times with CBO reports, right here on this thread.. I cant force you to read them if you wont..
Someone need to tell you that allowing people to keep more money, is in no way harmful to the economy? it is "who" you let keep the money, the wealthy just add it to the piles they have already, the working poor and middle class use it, putting it right back into the economy
Since the rich are actually keeping LESS of their money than they did a few years ago, your posting is just babble... Dont know the difference between effective, and marginal tax rate.. do you?
fyi, when i say the Senate is filibuster proof, i mean that the GOP's filibusters prevent any democratic engineered bill from seeing an up or down vote. but you knew that, right?
Last edited by buzzards27; 12-13-2011 at 02:04 PM..
Your comment about "who you let keep their money" is truly frightening. It shows exactly the mentality of the left. They don't believe in private property. They think everything belongs to the govt, and then you "get" to keep what they feel is "fair".
I won't even discuss the fact that you think there's been no budget because the GOP took the house in 2010.
That is not the point the person made. It is no secret that we would rather have 21 months of job growth that saw an addition of 2.9 million jobs than 24 months of job losses that saw a subtraction of 8.8 million jobs. You're aware of these facts, right?
The point being made is that republicans would prefer that the economy stays down (and yes it is, even as it is recovering from one of the biggest financial debacles in history), if not get worse. It is their ticket to defeat Obama. How else do you think republicans can compete with likes of Newt and Romney? Are you telling me that these two represent the republican party at the core and the direction that the country needed in 2008. Seriously?
So you're the genius that can read minds now? Believe me, as a republican, I would LOVE this economy to recover. I actually thought it might, right after Obama got elected. Silly me, I thought the instability would be behind us, and we would start to grow. I never dreamed we'd have 3 years of unbridled big government and economy-killing policy.
I'm terrified for our future. I'm not worried about the next 4 years, I'm worried about the next 12 months. Obama's toast no matter what, but this country needs to improve. If it means Obama won't be quite the disaster in history than he is now, great.
omeone need to tell you that allowing people to keep more money, is in no way harmful to the economy? it is "who" you let keep the money, the wealthy just add it to the piles they have already, the working poor and middle class use it, putting it right back into the economy
in response to someone saying 'let people keep more money', me suggesting the working poor are a better choice to receive more of their money back is somehow evil/socialist??? really, you think giving the uber wealthy, already setting on huge stacks of cash that they are unwilling to put back into the economy, is a better choice? more money handed to and taken out of the economy by the wealthy is not going to ignite the economy.
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Originally Posted by ringwise
Your comment about "who you let keep their money" is truly frightening. It shows exactly the mentality of the left. They don't believe in private property. They think everything belongs to the govt, and then you "get" to keep what they feel is "fair".
I won't even discuss the fact that you think there's been no budget because the GOP took the house in 2010.
Last edited by buzzards27; 12-13-2011 at 02:43 PM..
The OP may be right, there maybe some republicans who don't want the economy to improve. It certainly keeps President Obama from looking good before the election. However, I am sure there are allot of Republicans who do want the economy to improve and improve right now. Allot of people are suffering financial hardship. I am sure some of them are Republicans- now ain't none of them in the congress or senate though LOL
The war would get cheaper in a hurry bub.
The sooner the rentier class leaves, the better.
Old money is like royalty and they don't make squat so I don't buy into that neo-liberal rubbish that pretends them to be business men when they are nothing but feudal lords.
Ask what they produce not what they consume.
Oh and I forgot. No taxes on industrial capital or income taxes of any kind. The producer will love to stay.
I'd ask you to translate what the hell you just said, but it would probably be useless.
The top 1% pay about 30-40% of all income taxes each year, so if you are asking for them to leave the country that logic would be severely flawed.
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