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Old 12-18-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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Why won't they move to the Amazon Rain Forest or Sub Saharan Africa if they don't want big government? There, you can be free and do whatever you want.
Why won't you stop making ignorant posts about Africa? There are no libertarian governments anywhere on the continent.
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Old 12-18-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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In short, you don't know what you're talking about. You've taken an extreme view or demonization of people you don't like and accepted it as the standard. I direct you back to knowledgeiskey's correction.

Libertarians will never be happy because they think they exist in a vacuum, responsible only to themselves. Space, that final frontier, is the only place where they can be free of all other entanglements. Perhaps a term there will make them realize that they are indeed part of a collective, like it or not.
most libertarians Ive encountered in rural areas have not left the 50 mile radius of their hometown.
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Old 12-18-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Why won't they move to the Amazon Rain Forest or Sub Saharan Africa if they don't want big government? There, you can be free and do whatever you want.

asking that question is like asking democrats why they dont want to move to north korea or iran.
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Old 12-18-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Why won't they move to the Amazon Rain Forest or Sub Saharan Africa if they don't want big government? There, you can be free and do whatever you want.
In case you didn't know, the United States was founded and developed on the basis of Libertarianism: free speech, states' rights, limited government, etc. I think Libertarians would be better off staying here and trying to restore what our Foundng Fathers believed in, rather than moving to some far flung hideaway.

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In short, liberals in America want a government that will give them things like health care and education....but they don't want to chip in to cover the costs.
No, they want everybody else to chip in to cover the costs. A good example is the way education is currently funded: all through forced taxation. Federal taxes, local sales taxes, and property taxes all pay for everybody else's kids to receive their free daycare in the public schools ... but it's mandatory that we all pay for this, when it should be the PARENTS who pay for their children's expenses such as education!
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Old 12-18-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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Why won't they move to the Amazon Rain Forest or Sub Saharan Africa if they don't want big government? There, you can be free and do whatever you want.
Why should we move? I've been paying taxes and contributing to the welfare of the US since 1977. I have a vested interest in the success of this nation.

What (if anything) have you contributed?
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Old 12-18-2011, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's a lot easier to complain and rage on the internet then to do anything about one's beliefs.

That's why Libertarians stay after losing election after election, instead of actually doing something useful.
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Old 12-18-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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In case you didn't know, the United States was founded and developed on the basis of Libertarianism: free speech, states' rights, limited government, etc. I think Libertarians would be better off staying here and trying to restore what our Foundng Fathers believed in, rather than moving to some far flung hideaway.



No, they want everybody else to chip in to cover the costs. A good example is the way education is currently funded: all through forced taxation. Federal taxes, local sales taxes, and property taxes all pay for everybody else's kids to receive their free daycare in the public schools ... but it's mandatory that we all pay for this, when it should be the PARENTS who pay for their children's expenses such as education!



At the same time not allowing women to vote when owning slaves.

Doesn't sound "libertarian" to me.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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Tons of Americans move to those countries. Heck, I plan on moving to Canada after I finish college.

Why not go now. If when you start working you will pay taxes to Canada, use their money for your education.
Enjoy your sat, vat and 4.50 gas
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Greer
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Why won't you stop making ignorant posts about Africa? There are no libertarian governments anywhere on the continent.
There are also no seven-foot dwarves, either!

Libertarians are moving, to New Hampshire.

Free State Project - Liberty in Our Lifetime
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:04 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Nice thing about living in a democracy: You can try to change things if you don't like 'em the way they are.

I like it.

strange, the USA is not a democracy, it is a Republic.
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