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Old 03-25-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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There would be no "drug dealers" if drugs were legalized-regulated and controlled. They would be seen as just as benign as liquor store owners, even though alcohol kills more people, is more destructive and harmful for society than marijuana is. Nobody looks at marijuana dispensary owners in Colorado as "drug dealers".

I'm sure you have no problem living next to a Pharmacist or a Pharmacy lobbyist-even though legal drugs are killing more people today than any illegal drug ever has in history.

In fact-legal drug overdoses are now the #1 cause of accidental death in the country, surpassing car accidents and gun deaths for the first time in history. I wonder why you, and people like you, are silent on this subject. Why is it OK for nationless corporations to rake in the cash from American drug addiction?

Did you know the family that created "oxycontin" has paid BILLIONS in fines due to lying to the FDA about the addictive nature of their legal drug-which is nothing more than synthetic heroin. Again, why don't you care? Just because the Government has deemed it "legal" while marijuana-which has never directly killed a human in thousands of years of history-is "illegal"?

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Smack, crack, crank, etc. will never be legal. Give it up.
And yes, oxy is very harmful. I know several people who flushed themselves down the john on that stuff. And even though you can buy it with a scrip, it's still sold on the black market. And most people, if someone was selling it to their kids, they would want that dealer arrested yesterday. Whether he's a violent guy or not.
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Old 03-25-2016, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Smack, crack, crank, etc. will never be legal. Give it up.
And yes, oxy is very harmful. I know several people who flushed themselves down the john on that stuff. And even though you can buy it with a scrip, it's still sold on the black market. And most people, if someone was selling it to their kids, they would want that dealer arrested yesterday. Whether he's a violent guy or not.

The only "illegal drug" that is fueling the War on "Drugs" and keeping it well oiled is marijuana. Every other drug is inconsequential and does not effect even a tiny fraction of the population-except heroin today but that is due to the wild growth of legal opiates which was perpetuated by Drug Corporations and our Government. Get real-Marijuana is the "head of the beast" of the War on "Drugs".
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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Over a trillion dollars spent in the last four decades and drug use is growing. The war on drugs is a total waste of our hard earned money.
However it does keep people working. Prisons are now privately run and need to keep the cells full to maximize profits.
We have a government for sale to the highest bidder and our current drug laws are just another payoff for campaign contributions.
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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"Only"? There should be NONE-prisons should not be a for-profit venture.
Why?
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Smack, crack, crank, etc. will never be legal. Give it up.
And yes, oxy is very harmful. I know several people who flushed themselves down the john on that stuff.
You can thank the war on drugs for that.
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Over a trillion dollars spent in the last four decades and drug use is growing. The war on drugs is a total waste of our hard earned money.
However it does keep people working. Prisons are now privately run and need to keep the cells full to maximize profits.
We have a government for sale to the highest bidder and our current drug laws are just another payoff for campaign contributions.
If we ended the war on drugs we could reduce the prisons capacity by 50% and reduce cops by 50%.
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:05 AM
 
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I would not call it a failure. A lot of people go to jail because they have committed a serious crime. The problem is not the laws but people that just don't want to follow the law. We need guardrails in society. If you want to burn weeds and smoke them, inject drugs into your body, well, you have jumped the guardrail.

At what point do we say some behavior is just acceptable?
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Old 03-26-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: USA
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I would not call it a failure. A lot of people go to jail because they have committed a serious crime. The problem is not the laws but people that just don't want to follow the law. We need guardrails in society. If you want to burn weeds and smoke them, inject drugs into your body, well, you have jumped the guardrail.

At what point do we say some behavior is just acceptable?
Excuse you??

Who are you to get to decide what I do with my life when I'm committing no crime??
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:02 AM
 
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Over a trillion dollars spent in the last four decades and drug use is growing. The war on drugs is a total waste of our hard earned money.
However it does keep people working. Prisons are now privately run and need to keep the cells full to maximize profits.
We have a government for sale to the highest bidder and our current drug laws are just another payoff for campaign contributions.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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That is highly misleading. Only 6% of state and 16% of federal prisoners are in private facilities.

There is absolutely no causation between private prisons and the huge US prison population.
Perhaps not but it certainly is ugly as hell. For-profit prisons on the stock exchange does not look good. And certainly does give the impression of unintended consequences at the very least. In some cases there has been undo influence in judicial cases where people went to jail for very minor offenses in order to fill beds.
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