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All thanks to the House GOP who won't even a direct vote on it.
why vote on something that can't be implemented in the 2 months time frame.
"Accordingly, NPRC advises policymakers that we believe there is insufficient lead time to accommodate the proposal embodied in H.R. 3630. In our opinion enactment of HR 3630 as written could create substantial problems, confusion and costs affecting a significant percentage of U.S. employers and employees.
The difficulty is in establishing a new Social Security Taxable Wage limit of $18,350 for the two-month extension period. More than ten percent of the workforce1 is likely to meet that limit, and would be subject to the higher 6.2% tax rate for earnings over that amount. However, many payroll systems are not likely to be able to make such a substantial programming change before January or even February. The systems affected tend to be highly complex, normally requiring at least ninety days for a change of this magnitude for software testing alone; not to mention analysis, design, coding and implementation. http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...0HR%203630.pdf
The Senate NEVER considered that it couldn't be done.
And how many bills have the house passed that Dirty Harry has put in a drawer not so much as letting them go to committee?
What "Dirty Harry" has done in the past is irrelevant. The Democrats made concessions after the House GOP originally wanted a two month extension. The Democrats gave in and the Senate formed a bipartisan deal out of it and sent it back to the House GOP for the vote. Now Boehner is reversing his proposal and not willing to do a direct vote on it.
The House GOP have painted themselves in the corner and the Senate GOP is not even willing to bail them out.
why vote on something that can't be implemented in the 2 months time frame.
"Accordingly, NPRC advises policymakers that we believe there is insufficient lead time to accommodate the proposal embodied in H.R. 3630. In our opinion enactment of HR 3630 as written could create substantial problems, confusion and costs affecting a significant percentage of U.S. employers and employees.
The difficulty is in establishing a new Social Security Taxable Wage limit of $18,350 for the two-month extension period. More than ten percent of the workforce1 is likely to meet that limit, and would be subject to the higher 6.2% tax rate for earnings over that amount. However, many payroll systems are not likely to be able to make such a substantial programming change before January or even February. The systems affected tend to be highly complex, normally requiring at least ninety days for a change of this magnitude for software testing alone; not to mention analysis, design, coding and implementation. http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...0HR%203630.pdf
The Senate NEVER considered that it couldn't be done.
Then it begs the question, if it can't be implemented by the end of the year, why won't the House GOP flat out vote "no" on it?
I haven't read the latest and greatest on this. What is the GOP asking for in return for a 1 year extension on the payroll tax cut? That makes a difference in the dealings I believe.
From the Daily News:
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What are both sides’ arguments?
House Republicans want to extend the payroll tax cut for all of 2012 — not just two months. But they want to slash other spending to help pay for the tax break, and Democrats are drawing a line in the sand.
Democrats would also like a full-year extension, but agreed to the two-month deal as a way of winning support from Senate Republicans. The idea was that it would buy more time to figure out how to pay for a longer extension while preventing a tax hike on working Americans.
why vote on something that can't be implemented in the 2 months time frame.
"Accordingly, NPRC advises policymakers that we believe there is insufficient lead time to accommodate the proposal embodied in H.R. 3630. In our opinion enactment of HR 3630 as written could create substantial problems, confusion and costs affecting a significant percentage of U.S. employers and employees.
The difficulty is in establishing a new Social Security Taxable Wage limit of $18,350 for the two-month extension period. More than ten percent of the workforce1 is likely to meet that limit, and would be subject to the higher 6.2% tax rate for earnings over that amount. However, many payroll systems are not likely to be able to make such a substantial programming change before January or even February. The systems affected tend to be highly complex, normally requiring at least ninety days for a change of this magnitude for software testing alone; not to mention analysis, design, coding and implementation. http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...0HR%203630.pdf
The Senate NEVER considered that it couldn't be done.
Are you kidding me that it can't be done? Are they need to do is continue it from this year's. The rules are already been set and small details need to be changed like the percentage.
And please spare me the pipeline creating jobs. At best, they are creating 2K to 5K jobs and they are short term. Even Nebraska which is one of the most republican state refuses the pipeline. Oil sand is not the same as crude oil. 30-40% more energy to extract. The global market will determine the price anyway, so gas price would not change. This is small compared to the global oil imports.
GOP Senate leader Mitch McConnell famously said a year ago that his main task in the 112th Congress was to make sure that President Obama would not be re-elected. Given how he and House Speaker John Boehner have handled the payroll tax debate, we wonder if they might end up re-electing the President before the 2012 campaign even begins in earnest.
The GOP leaders have somehow managed the remarkable feat of being blamed for opposing a one-year extension of a tax holiday that they are surely going to pass. This is no easy double play.
Republicans have also achieved the small miracle of letting Mr. Obama position himself as an election-year tax cutter, although he's spent most of his Presidency promoting tax increases and he would hit the economy with one of the largest tax increases ever in 2013. This should be impossible.
I agree with this. So many people who I never even hear talk about politics are so frustrated with the GOP over this I don't see how they will ever be able to recover by the election. They basically just proved most of the bad things that Democrats say about them.
I thought this measure was simply to buy time for further negotiations so Boehner and Reid could work out a deal. Last time I checked the vast majority of Senate Republicans voted for this, are they out to destroy America as well? Simply put House Republicans bet that they could hold unemployment benefits and middle class tax cuts hostage for a better deal and Reid called their bluff.
If this shows anything it is that Boehner is an ineffectual speaker who cannot even control his own caucus. I am fairly certain that if the Senate Republicans thought there was a deal and had they known that this would happen they would not have exposed themselves like this.
Either way with Congress' numbers so dismal I have a hard time believing Boehner will be speaker by 2013, either Democrats will take back the House, or the Republicans will launch a coup.
This post has a lot of very simple and should be obvious reasoning yet this is the first time I ever heard it. I bet you are right they tried to block it for a better deal and it back fired big time.
I knew Boehner was no good when he was crying during all those interviews when he first became speaker.
Are you like that most of the nation you mention who don't know about the Senate not taking their sworn duty to pass a budget even to the point of avoiding any bill the House sends over? How do we stop all the fancy spending without a planned budget? People don't know about that foolishness but, like you, they are willing to accept the words of Dirty Harry about this one.
We all know that Dirty Harry is using this fool method to allow debate about that 2 months every 2 months till November at which time they will either go with the full year or another 2 months depending on who wins the election.
Damn do I get tired of playing games depending on an election for over a year at a time.
Then you need to tell Bohner to stop flip flopping.
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