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Old 12-21-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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Michigan and Wisconsin have banned smoking in hotels. This happened last year. Jennifer Granholm is an anti-freedom slob and a left wing zealot. It's no wonder that Michigan elected a Republican this time for Governor.

My wife and I recently went on vacation down south. Coming back north we discovered that we couldn't get a smoking room at any hotel in WI or MI.

Why would these states discourage tourism? Tourism is one of Michigan's biggest industries. It's stupid.

If someone smokes in a hotel room -- IT WILL NOT KILL THE FAMILY IN THE NEXT ROOM. Get it Democrats?

Why is it that whenever LIBERALS are in charge ..... AMERICANS lose their FREEDOM?
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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I bet Liberals would support smoking marijuana in a hotel room.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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This has been one of my pet-peeves for years. Shouldn't the owner of an establishment get to decide whether it wants to be smoking or non-smoking? Then each customer could choose whether or not to patronize the business...
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:43 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Sorry, but you can't blame this change in the law on liberals. It's good a business position to take. More people ask to have their rooms changed after checking in because the rooms they were assigned smell bad than there are smokers who check in. It also costs the hotels and motels more money to maintain a room where smokers are because they have to dry clean the drapery and bed spreads more often, not to mention they have to paint more often and replace furniture and counter tops with burn marks more often. The hotels and motels can have a smoker's lounge where smokers can go and the management has a chance to sell them snacks and drinks while they smoke and their insurance rates go down. The law is good for their business.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Sorry, but nobody gives a damn about smokers anymore. You pollute the environment and raise healthcare costs for all.

You have gone the way of the horse and buggy. Get over yourself. It's not a liberal or conservative issue. It's a "the country has evolved and you refuse to" issue.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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This has been one of my pet-peeves for years. Shouldn't the owner of an establishment get to decide whether it wants to be smoking or non-smoking? Then each customer could choose whether or not to patronize the business...

Thats what pissed me off so bad when they passed it in restaurants and bars here. By the time they 1/2 were already non smoking.

Then smokers had a choice , go somewhere ya can smoke, or go somewhere you may like better and not smoke while your there.

I dont need the gvmt protecting me from me.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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I'll say the same thing conservatives say to gays: If you don't like it, get out of the state.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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Sorry, but you can't blame this change in the law on liberals. It's good a business position to take. More people ask to have their rooms changed after checking in because the rooms they were assigned smell bad than there are smokers who check in. It also costs the hotels and motels more money to maintain a room where smokers are because they have to dry clean the drapery and bed spreads more often, not to mention they have to paint more often and replace furniture and counter tops with burn marks more often. The hotels and motels can have a smoker's lounge where smokers can go and the management has a chance to sell them snacks and drinks while they smoke and their insurance rates go down. The law is good for their business.

Then let someone have a smoking hotel. They are allowed to charge what they need to recoup costs.

At the airport in the bahamas it is non smoking. But there is a longe one can go in and pay$10 . Ya can have a cocktail, read a mag and smoke till ya hearts content.
Thats capitalism at its finest.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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This has been one of my pet-peeves for years. Shouldn't the owner of an establishment get to decide whether it wants to be smoking or non-smoking? Then each customer could choose whether or not to patronize the business...
That would be ideal.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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I'll say the same thing conservatives say to gays: If you don't like it, get out of the state.

So what do ya say to libertarians who dont have a problem with gays?
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