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Old 12-23-2011, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^As long as you keep talking about a "tag line", you lack credibility.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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The ACLU stands for Anti-Christian Liberal Ulcers.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The ACLU stands for Anti-Christian Liberal Ulcers.
The ACLU often defends Christians in religious freedom cases.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:00 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yet another hypocrisy of the left.

Rich people are "immoral" and "greedy", women who don't want their child to live are "making a choice".
Is there even a shred of logic in that statement?
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:02 AM
 
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^^As long as you keep talking about a "tag line", you lack credibility.
Thank you for continuing to prove a point to me
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I can say, as a guy -
I really don't like the idea of abortion, simply because you got pregnant and it's either inconvenient, or etc etc etc...

With that being said, I also don't think, that unless for some strange reason I am PERSONALLY involved, that it's any of my darned business.

Now, with that out of the way, I can understand why some people would not want to be a part of an abortion taking place because of religious reasons, or personal reasons. I can also understand, if it's part of the job description, then you gotta do what you gotta do.

Isn't part of the reason that people got into medical fields, is to help save lives? Isn't an abortion for convenience, contrary to that idea, that you are helping people, and saving lives?

I am not looking for nasty responses, or accusations bandied about. I think that we as adults can have a serious, open discussion without getting mean about it.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I am not looking for nasty responses, or accusations bandied about. I think that we as adults can have a serious, open discussion without getting mean about it.
Not when you mention the word "abortion."
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:11 AM
 
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Well I'm kinda in between, so maybe pro-life lite is a good word. I personally do not agree that it can be done SOO late (like 6 months!!). I think the "grace period" to have one should be shorter, when it's merely a blob of cell. But when it has eyes, and feet, and toes, a mouth, legs, finders, hands.....this is a person

I am not religious at all, btw. So this issue has nothing to do with my religious beliefs.

With all of that being said, I always do support ANYone having choices. But there's a difference between "Big Mac or Salad" or "Abort baby or not".

BUT with the topic at hand, yeah.. if you work IN the department that does them, well, it is what you sign up for. If it was in a hospital and every nurse had to be on call... then I think that's a separate issue. At least to me.

And Katiana, yes I don't work in the medical field. I don't deny that these things happen to save the life of a mother. All I'm asking is why isn't there a statistic for how often this happens? The reason I ask that is simply because like I said earlier about "the tag line". The "tag line" always comes up in an abortion debate, yet, instead of just accepting that in it's entirety I'd like to know how often this happens. I mean, it's one of THE reasons people use in it's defense, so I just really want to know the frequency of it. Instead, most replies have been just comments about what I said, and not provide me with any true information.
I answered the question of how often an abortion is preformed to save a mothers life. these are late term abortions which take 2 doctors to sign off on and are done only because the mother's life is in danger or the child is severely in danger or already dead. these abortions count for 1% of alll abortions. I would say that in all these cases the women do want their child and this is a terrible thing to have to endure. in a medical sense because a fetus has hands and feet does not exclude it or the mother from being in danger.


fingers, toes and all do not make a person it makes a potential person in the womb. until it can breathe on it's own it only has potential for life. some women don't find out they are pregnant for many months. some young women postpone an abortion because they either can't afford one or can't go to anyone for help. each abortion has it's own story and one no one should be involved with other than the woman herself and who she wants to include.

yes abortion is way different then the choice between a mc salad and a big mac and I suspect most women do not make the choice easily.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Thank you for continuing to prove a point to me
In your mind, maybe. I find such talk extremely demeaning to women.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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I can say, as a guy -
I really don't like the idea of abortion, simply because you got pregnant and it's either inconvenient, or etc etc etc...

With that being said, I also don't think, that unless for some strange reason I am PERSONALLY involved, that it's any of my darned business.

Now, with that out of the way, I can understand why some people would not want to be a part of an abortion taking place because of religious reasons, or personal reasons. I can also understand, if it's part of the job description, then you gotta do what you gotta do.

Isn't part of the reason that people got into medical fields, is to help save lives? Isn't an abortion for convenience, contrary to that idea, that you are helping people, and saving lives?

I am not looking for nasty responses, or accusations bandied about. I think that we as adults can have a serious, open discussion without getting mean about it.
you sign up as a nurse like in the op you know going in you may have to assist in abortion. if you are that against them go to work in a catholic hospital where they don't preform them.
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