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View Poll Results: The middle class is suffering and Republicans want to cut taxes for the wealthy. Do you agree with t
Yes, the wealthy need more money and power. This will help America. 38 20.54%
No, the Republicans are dead wrong.This hasn't ever helped anyone but the wealthy and will continue to hurt the middle class. 147 79.46%
Voters: 185. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-30-2011, 07:43 AM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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I believe this election will come down to the middle-class vs the rich at the end of the day. If you are rich and well connected then obviously, Romney is your candidate. If you are middle-class and put in a hard days work, then Obama is your man. The last I checked, the middle-class is still the largest voting Demographic in America.

As long as Obama and the Democrats keep sounding the populist tone and fight for issues that concern the middle class, the Republicans and their corporate donors will have a very hard time buying the election.

OBAMA is the one with the money dear! I think he will do the buying!

 
Old 12-30-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I believe this election will come down to the middle-class vs the rich at the end of the day. If you are rich and well connected then obviously, Romney is your candidate.
No. That would be Obama...

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"What's taken place in the year since Obama won the presidency has turned out to be one of the most dramatic political about-faces in our history. Elected in the midst of a crushing economic crisis brought on by a decade of orgiastic deregulation and unchecked greed, Obama had a clear mandate to rein in Wall Street and remake the entire structure of the American economy. What he did instead was ship even his most marginally progressive campaign advisers off to various bureaucratic Siberias, while packing the key economic positions in his White House with the very people who caused the crisis in the first place.

...Whatever the president's real motives are, the extensive series of loophole-rich financial "reforms" that the Democrats are currently pushing may ultimately do more harm than good. In fact, some parts of the new reforms border on insanity, threatening to vastly amplify Wall Street's political power by institutionalizing the taxpayer's role as a welfare provider for the financial-services industry. At one point in the debate, Obama's top economic advisers demanded the power to award future bailouts without even going to Congress for approval - and without providing taxpayers a single dime in equity on the deals."
Obama's Big Sellout: The President has Packed His Economic Team with Wall Street Insiders

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"...a new study by the Center for Responsive Politics out Friday morning shows that Obama is relying more on Wall Street to fund his re-election this year than he did in 2008."
CNBC News Headlines

Being a New York guy, you should already know all that. Or have Obama and the Dems hoodwinked you?

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Old 12-30-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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I know that you're being facetious, but it is the reason that there are poor people suffering.

Well to do social leftists will not lift a finger to help anyone unless they are forced to do so. They would much rather donate to some socialist politician who claims they want to tax the rich than actually donate to the poor themselves.
I was not being facetious. The post was 100% honest.
 
Old 12-30-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Instead they fund UN projects that produce genetically modified mosquitoes while telling DC they must do something to fight poverty.
The genetically modified mosquitoes help to fight disease. If this works it could be the end of malaria. In your mind you probably don't care because malaria is not present in the u.s. Are you fine with children dying all over the world because of this disease? I would guess you are.
 
Old 12-30-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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The genetically modified mosquitoes help to fight disease. If this works it could be the end of malaria. In your mind you probably don't care because malaria is not present in the u.s. Are you fine with children dying all over the world because of this disease? I would guess you are.

Do you really believe that MOSANTO actually has your best interest at heart? Just like it can be used to combat malaria it can also be used as a biological weapon. Mosantos connections to the military are well known.....don't be fooled!
 
Old 12-30-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The genetically modified mosquitoes help to fight disease. If this works it could be the end of malaria. In your mind you probably don't care because malaria is not present in the u.s. Are you fine with children dying all over the world because of this disease? I would guess you are.
Don't tell Florida that because those frankensquitos are going to be released and tested there early next year.
If no one in Florida gets malaria or dengue fever in the next 6 months then we know it's a success..right ?
 
Old 12-30-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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Don't tell Florida that because those frankensquitos are going to be released and tested there early next year.
If no one in Florida gets malaria or dengue fever in the next 6 months then we know it's a success..right ?
Considering that we are talking about Floridians i'm ok with the risk!
 
Old 12-30-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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You are intentionally being obtuse. I specifically said that there are more poor than rich but those poor have little income to tax. Your absurd point is illustrated in this video:
World of Class Warfare - The Poor's Free Ride Is Over - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 08/18/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

The poor are those that earn less than $22,500 a year. Everything the poor have is a total of $1.45 trillion. They represent only 2% of national income compared to the top 1%, who earn 17% of national income (source.)

Considering that the income of the top 1% grew by 276% since 1979, coinciding with lowering their tax-rates starting at that time, it sure makes sense to reverse this 30 year trend.

So, beyond the immorality of increasing taxes on the struggling poor, instead of raising them on the wealthy, it makes little practical or mathematical sense too.
waaa, waaaa, your income didnt go up..

NEWS FLASH MTA, when you rely upon the generosity of WELFARE, your income isnt supposed to go up..

Why is it the fault of the rich, that you dont want to go out and earn an income?
 
Old 12-30-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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There is no federal sales tax.
So what?
 
Old 12-30-2011, 12:13 PM
 
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I was not being facetious. The post was 100% honest.
Sorry.

So, you would rather allow the poor to stay poor unless the government forces you to donate?

Real nice.
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