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Old 12-29-2011, 01:31 PM
 
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If this same publication was directing Girl Scouts to Newsbusters as the go-to source for calling out media misinformation, Liberals would be equally outraged.

So much deflection to justify Media Matters. While they may report facts, they only report facts that discredit conservative outlets. It's lying by omission. They're directing kids to a place to learn about lies in the media, but MM will never report on lies on MSNBC, The View or The Daily Show. It's presenting biased facts, as in "these guys are the liars, nobody else ever lies, just these guys!"
That wouldn't work as left leaning and centrist outlets rarely present the facts incorrectly and when they do, promptly apologize and state the error. Fox and other extreme right outlets lie and twist facts non-stop. If right wing outlets would stop lying, media matters and other watchdog groups would be out of business.
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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You are correct in that it is voluntary and parents can choose not to have their girl (or Transgendered Boy) in a troop. And parents need to be kept abreast of just how radically different the Girl Scouts are now so they can make an informed decision. Sewing and Saying the Pledge of Allegiance and Bake Sales are far from what this organization has evolved into. Its more like political activism with the far left having infiltrated the organization and as they like to do are rapidly working from within to radicalize it.
wow. GS troops are now a source of political activism . They are usually run by stay at home Moms, its not like marxist liberals are clamoring to volunteer to teach girls how to make a pineapple upside down cake.

{smh} if people are this enraged abt GS, then this country is forever divided by hate rhetoric. Sad.
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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Here is the Media Matters website.

Media Matters for America

Perhaps you can find one of these many "lies" on their website and let us know?

I think you just don't like the Girl Scouts referring people to truthful information.
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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Isn't Media Matters mainly composed of audio and video links? How can anyone have a problem with that?
Because the audio and video links can be chosen with a bias. The right and left are equally guilty of this.
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:53 PM
 
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If this same publication was directing Girl Scouts to Newsbusters as the go-to source for calling out media misinformation, Liberals would be equally outraged.

So much deflection to justify Media Matters. While they may report facts, they only report facts that discredit conservative outlets. It's lying by omission. They're directing kids to a place to learn about lies in the media, but MM will never report on lies on MSNBC, The View or The Daily Show. It's presenting biased facts, as in "these guys are the liars, nobody else ever lies, just these guys!"
It's not lying by omission. It's not presenting biased facts.

They aren't leaving out facts. They are simply focusing on certain sources of misinformation. And they're upfront about that.

The facts aren't biased. The facts are simply the facts.

There is no need to justify Media Matters. Any organization that works to stop misinformation justifies itself. Media Matters isn't a source of misinformation. It addresses misinformation that comes from conservative sources.
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Old 12-29-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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One of our daughters was a Girl Scout for many years, back in the nineties. She had a wonderful leader and we made many really fine friends.

Now, won't buy even one more box of cookies since the money also goes to the higher-echelon of G. Scouts and doesn't stay just with local troops. G.Scouts has been found-out to be giving sexually-explicit materials at some of their conventions.

There was a Girl Scout sponsored workshop at the United Nations and peculiarly, a young adult woman was made to leave because it was "for the girls, only."

This young adult woman waited till the workshop was over, went back into the room quickly, and picked up a Planned Parenthood booklet for young girls that said things such as, that they have a right to "engage in any type of sexual activity they wish," and worst of all, that if they ever find themselves to be HIV positive, that it's up to them whether they tell their partners that they are, or not!!

Now we have the liberal bias of this....pointing girls to Soros's choice of "Media fact checking!!"

Nope, GS has been infiltrated by the Radical, Subversive Left and their cookies can rot on the sidewalk for all I care, and this from a former, longtime Scout mom.
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Old 12-29-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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Here is the Media Matters website.

Media Matters for America

Perhaps you can find one of these many "lies" on their website and let us know?

I think you just don't like the Girl Scouts referring people to truthful information.
Dude, All MM does is spin what they are calling facts. They may have some hard numbers, but there is much more OPINION behind what they are saying than anything really factual. Take for instance the article about the subsidies going to the Volt. They are saying some commentator on FOX lied because he didn't count in FUTURE sales! How can you count something that hasn't even happened yet? So, yes, MM is full of it and completely biased.
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Old 12-29-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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Here is the Media Matters website.

Media Matters for America

Perhaps you can find one of these many "lies" on their website and let us know?

I think you just don't like the Girl Scouts referring people to truthful information.
Sorry, I'm not giving them a "hit."

Its already been proven more than is necessary. But you know that.


Here's just a tiny, ridiculously obvious example of the tricks used by Media Matters, who the GS are referring our children to for a "fact check."

"Even though Palin’s slip was reported in headlined stories by American and international wire services, as well as major news sites across America and around the globe, Boehlert claims “major American newspaper(s) did not turn the Palin/North Korea gaffe into a “major political headline,” did not treat it as news, and did not even mention it as news when it occurred .” Boehlert changes Palin’s assertion of major political headlines to major newspaper
headlines, a sleight of hand that allows Boehlert to use Nexis to list major American news outlets that supposedly did not report on Palin’s slip:"

» Media Matters Lies About Media Coverage of Sarah Palin North Korea Slip - Big Government

The idea that the Girl Scouts is apolitical is a joke.
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Old 12-29-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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It's not lying by omission. It's not presenting biased facts.

They aren't leaving out facts. They are simply focusing on certain sources of misinformation. And they're upfront about that.

The facts aren't biased. The facts are simply the facts.

There is no need to justify Media Matters. Any organization that works to stop misinformation justifies itself. Media Matters isn't a source of misinformation. It addresses misinformation that comes from conservative sources.
So when MM says FOX lied about the subsidies going to the volt because the person making the claim didn't count future sales, that is not spin? OK, given that may be a fact, BUT RIGHT NOW, the FACT is, those sales have NOT been made yet! When you calculate the cost of something, you calculate it based on RIGHT NOW, not what it MIGHT be in the future.
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Old 12-29-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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It's not brainwashing if the source is a teacher or professor, right? So many who claim to be the educated elite are too proud to realize that they've been taught what to think through various channels (teachers, professors, TV & movies, etc.) their entire lives. They laugh at church-going Conservatives as brain dead lemmings while blissfully ignorant of the brainwashing they've been subjected to.

Higher education teaches people to gather information from various sources, compare and contrast what they find, then be able to articulate what they believe and why, so points from the other position are addressed as well in both inception and presentation. Academia is not as clear cut as many believe...or have been told to believe.
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