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View Poll Results: Do you feel it is correct to teach children that homosexuality is normal and natural?
Yes 292 50.34%
No 256 44.14%
I am unsure 32 5.52%
Voters: 580. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-04-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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"Normal" means a lot....

societies will create norms...that will never ever change.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Normal | Define Normal at Dictionary.com
1. conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.
2. serving to establish a standard.
Very good, you "defined" the word, now maybe you can answer the question that was poses, "what IS normal?".

Now that you defined and explained how a norm is established explain how and who set these "standards". While doing so, please explain why your standard for normal is any more valid than my standard of normal.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Very good, you "defined" the word, now maybe you can answer the question that was poses, "what IS normal?".

Now that you defined and explained how a norm is established explain how and who set these "standards". While doing so, please explain why your standard for normal is any more valid than my standard of normal.
Well first off that is not MY definition. It's the dictionary's definition.

What is normal ? What is accepted. (social norm).
It doesn't happen overnight and forcing it only serves to have it become polarized.

But the instant gratification, got to have it now, all about me group are not content to wait. Patience and evolution and gradual acceptance is not in their playbook. Mandated rules right now is the only way to go...right ?

Norm (social) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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GLAAD Fires Back After 'Growing Pains' Star Kirk Cameron Calls Homosexuality 'Unnatural' - Yahoo! TV

Kirk Cameron says it is unnatural and GLADD fires back.

I think the comments after the article are interesting. GLADD doesn't think Cameron has a right to his opinion.
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Well first off that is not MY definition. It's the dictionary's definition.

What is normal ? What is accepted. (social norm).
It doesn't happen overnight and forcing it only serves to have it become polarized.

But the instant gratification, got to have it now, all about me group are not content to wait. Patience and evolution and gradual acceptance is not in their playbook. Mandated rules right now is the only way to go...right ?

Norm (social) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Recent polls suggest that the question of gay marriage is a toss up. If it is a 50% 50% proposition, What's the norm? I'd say the norm is acceptance of gay sex that accompanies gay marriage is the norm.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Recent polls suggest that the question of gay marriage is a toss up. If it is a 50% 50% proposition, What's the norm? I'd say the norm is acceptance of gay sex that accompanies gay marriage is the norm.
The norm is what is accepted by society. Gay sex/marriage is not accepted yet.

Sex outside of marriage is accepted.
Having kids outside of marriage is accepted.
Abortion is accepted.
Heck, women wearing pants is accepted,

At one point in history the above was not the norm because it was not accepted by society as being a normal occurrence.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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The norm is what is accepted by society. Gay sex/marriage is not accepted yet.

Sex outside of marriage is accepted.
Having kids outside of marriage is accepted.
Abortion is accepted.
Heck, women wearing pants is accepted,

At one point in history the above was not the norm because it was not accepted by society as being a normal occurrence.
FYI, society doesn't have to wait until you accept it.

70% of younger Americans accept gay marriage. It is those younger Americans we're talking about. Imposing your beliefs and views on an age group that doesnt share your values is backwards. Their NORM is gay marriage is normal.

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Old 03-04-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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I'm very pleased with the results of this poll. It's clear. The people have spoken. Homosexuals will not be discriminated against for much longer. Bigots, your days are numbered. Enjoy your special rights for as long as you can. Soon, they won't be special. Homosexuals will have them too.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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GLAAD Fires Back After 'Growing Pains' Star Kirk Cameron Calls Homosexuality 'Unnatural' - Yahoo! TV

Kirk Cameron says it is unnatural and GLADD fires back.

I think the comments after the article are interesting. GLADD doesn't think Cameron has a right to his opinion.
Kirk Cameron is an idiot who had to resort to religious extremism to continue to make himself relevant.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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I'm very pleased with the results of this poll. It's clear. The people have spoken. Homosexuals will not be discriminated against for much longer. Bigots, your days are numbered. Enjoy your special rights for as long as you can. Soon, they won't be special. Homosexuals will have them too.
I'm still rather annoyed that numbers are so close, especially seeing the idiot remarks made by the anti-gay crowd.

Not a single coherent, logical argument for why it's wrong, merely "It's unnatural and not normal".

Both patently false.
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