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Old 01-05-2012, 11:19 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
That is a lie.

There is no such book.
As always, it is ridiculously easy to prove you wrong.

The Formative Years, Volume Two - Henry Adams - Google Books
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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As always, it is ridiculously easy to prove you wrong.

The Formative Years, Volume Two - Henry Adams - Google Books
So where's the proof?

Please... link to the actual page where it says Jefferson was only an "honorary" French citizen. Note that it gets it wrong... missing that Paine and Barlow also had honorary French citizenship.

And then look at this one:

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According to the usages and understanding of all nations a man may have all the rights of a naturalized citizen or subject in his adopted country, and yet retain all his relations, civil and political, in his native country. For instances, the Marqui La Fayette was naturalized in the United States, but retained every such relation to France. So Mr. Jefferson was naturalized in France and there made a French citizen, and he had gone there would have been entitled to all the rights there of an adopted citizen, but he certainly retained all his relations to the United States, his rights and duties as a native citizen, and was in fact after such naturalization, elected President of the United States.
From:A general abridgment and digest of American law: with occasional notes and comments by Nathan Dane , 1824.

Note in particular that Dane was writing more than a century earlier than Adams... much closer to the actual time being recorded. Adams can be forgiving his sloppiness, writing as he was in 1947.

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Old 01-05-2012, 11:34 PM
 
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So where's the proof?

Please... link to the actual page where it says Jefferson was only an "honorary" French citizen.
Go to the library and check out the book. The text isn't available online. Maybe you'll actually learn some history.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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ROTFL! So much info from "BirtherReport.com!" And naturally...a book without available text on-line.
So much for any credibility there might have been. One must have a copy at hand to remember such details; why not type in the necessary text?
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:37 PM
 
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I will take that a full concession that you cannot even come up with even the most absurd example to justify your position.
The U.S. State Department is who you're attempting to contradict. Take it up with them.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:42 PM
 
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The U.S. State Department is who you're attempting to contradict. Take it up with them.
Run away, IC. Run away.

That's okay. We all knew that you would furiously backpedal when the absurdity of your position was pointed out.

Thanks for playing. It's been fun.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Go to the library and check out the book. The text isn't available online. Maybe you'll actually learn some history.
Wow... you can't get anything right!!!

The text is available online.

It's page 716, IC.

Do I have to do everything for you?

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Old 01-05-2012, 11:46 PM
 
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ROTFL! So much info from "BirtherReport.com!"
Not sure what you're talking about. I've quoted, cited, and linked SCOTUS, the Library of Congress, the U.S. State Department, etc.
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And naturally...a book without available text on-line.
So much for any credibility there might have been. One must have a copy at hand to remember such details; why not type in the necessary text?
Yeah, right... anyone can just make anything up if they just "type in the necessary text." Do yourself a favor... go to the library and read the book. Maybe you'll learn some history, too.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Not sure what you're talking about. I've quoted, cited, and linked SCOTUS, the Library of Congress, the U.S. State Department, etc.
Yeah, right... anyone can just make anything up if they just "type in the necessary text." Do yourself a favor... go to the library and read the book. Maybe you'll learn some history, too.

LOL! Toasted. Hoisted by one's own petard. Exposed as a fraud. Buh-bye!
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:50 PM
 
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Run away, IC. Run away.
No need to run. Instead, I'm helpfully guiding you in the right direction. Go straight to the source, Frank. I quoted the U.S. State Department, verbatim. Your dispute is with them.
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