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LOL! Toasted. Hoisted by one's own petard. Exposed as a fraud.
You're obviously confused. You'll notice I refused to post text which wasn't available online, and instead pointed you to the actual book. No one is stopping you from doing the legwork of getting yourself to the library and reading it for yourself.
No need to run. Instead, I'm helpfully guiding you in the right direction. Go straight to the source, Frank. I quoted the U.S. State Department, verbatim. Your dispute is with them.
LOL... I have no dispute with the State Department at all. They are not Birthers. But you appear to have completely choked on that argument, so we can move on.
Now...have you looked up that Nathan Dane quotation I provided you? You do know who Nathan Dane was right? You do know that he was the guy who at the Philadelphia Convention in 1787 proposed the resolution that became the US Constitution, right?
You do know that he knew Thomas Jefferson personally, right?
So let's revisit what he wrote:
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According to the usages and understanding of all nations a man may have all the rights of a naturalized citizen or subject in his adopted country, and yet retain all his relations, civil and political, in his native country. For instances, the Marqui La Fayette was naturalized in the United States, but retained every such relation to France. So Mr. Jefferson was naturalized in France and there made a French citizen, and he had gone there would have been entitled to all the rights there of an adopted citizen, but he certainly retained all his relations to the United States, his rights and duties as a native citizen, and was in fact after such naturalization, elected President of the United States.
According to the usages and understanding of all nations a man may have all the rights of a naturalized citizen or subject in his adopted country, and yet retain all his relations, civil and political, in his native country. For instances, the Marqui La Fayette was naturalized in the United States, but retained every such relation to France...
From:A general abridgment and digest of American law: with occasional notes and comments by Nathan Dane , 1824.
Wow. Your source is verywrong, and therefore completely unreliable.
Lookie here... Not only did the Marquis La Fayette NOT naturalize in the United States, but he wasn't even conferred an honorary U.S.citizenship until posthumously in 2002. http://www.glin.gov/download.action?...4&glinID=79464
You're obviously confused. You'll notice I refused to post text which wasn't available online, and instead pointed you to the actual book. No one is stopping you from doing the legwork of getting yourself to the library and reading it for yourself.
I'm just confused as to why a poster would refuse to include text which supports their contentions especially when it's available on-line.
Wow. Your source is verywrong, and therefore completely unreliable.
Oh? Nathan Dane is the "Father of American Jurisprudence." The Harvard Law School was named after him. He personally knew both Thomas Jefferson and the Marquis de LaFayette.
Wow. Your source is verywrong, and therefore completely unreliable.
Lookie here... Not only did the Marquis La Fayette NOT naturalize in the United States, but he wasn't even conferred an honorary U.S.citizenship until posthumously in 2002. http://www.glin.gov/download.action?...4&glinID=79464
Here is the text of the 1784 act of the Maryland Legislature that made him a citizen:
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"An Act to naturalize Major General the Marquiss de la Fayette and his Heirs Male Forever. ... Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Maryland—that the Marquiss de la Fayette and his Heirs male forever shall be and they and each of them are hereby deemed adjudged and taken to be natural born Citizens of this State and shall henceforth be instilled to all the Immunities, Rights and Privileges of natural born Citizens thereof, they and every one of them conforming to the Constitution and Laws of this State in the Enjoyment and Exercise of such Immunities, Rights and Privileges."
Of course, this made him a Citizen of the US after ratification of the Constitution three years later. At least three other states did the same thing.
And before IC starts whining that this was only "honorary," no. This was exactly how many states (Maryland included) naturalized citizens prior to the "uniform rule of naturalization" that the Constitution would later call for Congress to establish. By an act of the State Legislature.
Oh? Nathan Dane is the "Father of American Jurisprudence." The Harvard Law School was named after him. He personally knew both Thomas Jefferson and the Marquis de LaFayette.
Harvard law...is mentioned in this thread..which reminds me..the school..Harvard College awarded George Washington a Doctor of The Law of Nations n 1776.
The Law of Nations was penned in Latin on Washington's degree. Imagine that..
Law of Nations chapter XIX...natural born citizens are born to citizen parents.
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