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View Poll Results: Should states have the power to outlaw oral and anal sex?
Yes 19 10.05%
No 169 89.42%
Not sure 1 0.53%
Voters: 189. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-06-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I don't happen to agree with the idea of a law to ban any type of sex, but i do agree that it's the states rights (the state of voters) to vote in a law if they want to. If I didn't agree with that typ eof law (which I don't) I'd move to another state.

So if your state allowed a business owner to refuse service to someone of your race that would be fine
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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Straight rights to what? Dictate that all others must be heterosexual or else? If there were a gay majority in USA they ought to be permitted to legally herd me into homosexuality??? Surely by their standards I'd be the embarrassment to the family- the black sheep Marilyn Munster.

If these individuals truly believed in God they'd let God & the individuals free will decide. I find it more than a little suspicious when they refuse that advice.
You can't be herded into homosexuality.

I'm gay and I truly believe in God. There are a lot of gay people that believe in God.

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Old 01-06-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Did anyone come up with a plan for enforcing the sodomy law yet?
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So if your state allowed a business owner to refuse service to someone of your race that would be fine
I don't think it's OK for states to ban sodomy, but I actually do think it should be OK for a state to allow a business owner to refuse service to someone based on race. I would support laws in my state that prohibited it, but don't necessarily support federal law banning it.

The difference is what's constitutional and what's not - a state certainly doesn't have to mandate that private business owners don't discriminate, but its power over personal affairs is limited.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I don't think it's OK for states to ban sodomy, but I actually do think it should be OK for a state to allow a business owner to refuse service to someone based on race. I would support laws in my state that prohibited it, but don't necessarily support federal law banning it.

The difference is what's constitutional and what's not - a state certainly doesn't have to mandate that private business owners don't discriminate, but its power over personal affairs is limited.
Wow, that's freaky...
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:17 AM
 
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Did anyone come up with a plan for enforcing the sodomy law yet?
Lol, I know right?

Maybe we should take after Uganda, where police raid people's privates homes to accuse them of homosexuality and then gang-rape them and threaten to kill them if they stay, thereby forcing them to seek refuge in a foreign land.

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Old 01-06-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Wow, that's freaky...
I don't think it's OK - I think state laws should step in and ban discrimination based on race, but I don't think states should be forced to have these laws. I don't like that federal law goes as far as it does and exercises so much control over private businesses, so I think state laws should handle this issue. However, I see no way a state could constitutionally be mandated to have such laws unless Congress wanted to withhold funding for something from states without these laws and I'm against federal funding for states anyway.

There isn't any comparison between a state not banning discrimination by a private business and a state banning sodomy.

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Old 01-06-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Well, I cannot agree with you.

Racial discrimination is one of the things the federal government SHOULD be involved with.

We may be made up of 50 states, but we are still one country. We are talking about PEOPLE here, not guns or drugs; states can make their own laws about those types of things. I cannot imagine that a person from one state, visiting another, could be denied service because of that state's 'laws'.

Let's not take a running leap backwards.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, I cannot agree with you.

Racial discrimination is one of the things the federal government SHOULD be involved with.

We may be made up of 50 states, but we are still one country. We are talking about PEOPLE here, not guns or drugs; states can make their own laws about those types of things. I cannot imagine that a person from one state, visiting another, could be denied service because of that state's 'laws'.

Let's not take a running leap backwards.
Do you think any states would not outlaw racial discrimination, other than perhaps Mississippi? Honestly?

I don't think states should be allowed to discriminate themselves.

I simply think the federal government should not have a law banning private businesses from discriminating and that states should, but that they should not (and, really, cannot constitutionally) be forced to.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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ROFL! Ya, cuz the government doesn't LOVE trampling all over individual rights. LOL!
And this coming from someone who voted "yes" to this poll.

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See the hypocrisy then?
Plenty of it. See above.
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