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What a lot of people don't understand is that text books are way overpriced. A friend of mine just paid $290 for ONE TEXT BOOK. Please don't tell me that *somebody* isn't making a huge profit selling books that cost $2.98 to print and distribute for $290. It's just a way to gouge students who are required to buy a text book for a course.
20yrsinBranson
That's been going on for decades.
Couldn't that be solved best with e-books? Another thing I've noticed is the supersized cost of having access to archived research material to do term papers. I'd like to see a not for profit organization take over that function but be assisted by academia and sound business models to remain solvent long term.
Get rid of student loans altogether. No more "easy" money. Schools will have no choice but to lower tuition else they would have to start closing due to no more students.
Subsidized anything leads to higher prices because of the subsidization.
A degree earned in Manila is worth what in the United States?
a college degree in america is the only thing that depreciates faster than a new car. check with employment sources but many institutions honor phillipino credentials. people also go to school in costa rico. outresourcing does not just apply to manufacturing. we consumers must also learn to play the game.
Tracking in HS. We see constant things like "US HS kids stink at geography." probably true but knowing where Glasgow is has little economic value to most truck drivers, electricians, and even many 4 years "professions"
Apprenticeships into skilled trades and semi skilled trades.
Make 2+2 degrees indistinguisable from the ones that go all 4 at the university.
Make profs teach instead of using their grad students. Many profs "research" stuff of little practical value.
What a lot of people don't understand is that text books are way overpriced. A friend of mine just paid $290 for ONE TEXT BOOK. Please don't tell me that *somebody* isn't making a huge profit selling books that cost $2.98 to print and distribute for $290. It's just a way to gouge students who are required to buy a text book for a course.
20yrsinBranson
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Originally Posted by harborlady
That's been going on for decades.
Couldn't that be solved best with e-books? Another thing I've noticed is the supersized cost of having access to archived research material to do term papers. I'd like to see a not for profit organization take over that function but be assisted by academia and sound business models to remain solvent long term.
Come on, you think the research, words, and illustrations/charts magically show up on the pages without some hard work of the authors? They dont deserve to be compensated for the hours and hours of work they put into these books?
Also, these are pretty limited run books that are usually only good for 2-3 years at best depending on the topic. Not that I think the prices couldn't be a little lower, but to say that they are making a huge profit on something that costs $3 to print...(which is probably way off because you need artists, typesetters, and editors involved not to mention shipping costs) is very disingenuous.
Attend a good public University. Texas, California, Florida and NY have great public universities. I'm sure every state has it's outstanding public universities. Go to a community college and take your basic classes there...and then transfer them to your university of choice.
Unless you are going to be a surgeon, I can't see how one can rack up $100k in loans.
Texas A&M, for example, can cost $6k a year. Texas A&M is a highly respected University.
Everything you said.... plus, investigate grants and scholarships, take part time job either on or off campus. A lower class load (I took 12 credits usually per semester and worked at Pizza Hut 3 days a week delivering, graduated in 5 yrs with little debt at all)
Come on, you think the research, words, and illustrations/charts magically show up on the pages without some hard work of the authors? They dont deserve to be compensated for the hours and hours of work they put into these books?
Also, these are pretty limited run books that are usually only good for 2-3 years at best depending on the topic. Not that I think the prices couldn't be a little lower, but to say that they are making a huge profit on something that costs $3 to print...(which is probably way off because you need artists, typesetters, and editors involved not to mention shipping costs) is very disingenuous.
Your logic generally only applies to books teaching disciplines or parts of a discipline that are leading/cutting edge or dynamic and constantly changing. How do you justify a $200 book on English literature or calculus for, example, undergraduates? Open those books and the discussions and analyses of those topics are practically the same from year-to-year.
Attend a good public University. Texas, California, Florida and NY have great public universities. I'm sure every state has it's outstanding public universities. Go to a community college and take your basic classes there...and then transfer them to your university of choice.
Unless you are going to be a surgeon, I can't see how one can rack up $100k in loans.
Texas A&M, for example, can cost $6k a year. Texas A&M is a highly respected University.
Agreed.
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