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It is not against the law to fire someone because they are pregnant. My cousin just lost her job because she became pregnant. No maternity, and they would do their best to keep her position for her, but no pay for her time off.
When you are barely making ends meet, you can't afford just to take maternity leave without pay.
I'm not sure what world you live in, but there are a lot of people whos parents have died, and they don't have any family.
Rose colored glasses me thinks.
She did not lose her job b/c she was pregnant. She had to take time off and the job said they would hold her position. That's what is required by law. If she chose to take time off, that was her doing, she was not forced out of her job due to pregnancy.
Sure, lots of people's parents have died, but most of these who are having abortions DO have living parents, friends and they ALL have a baby daddy.
She did not lose her job b/c she was pregnant. She had to take time off and the job said they would hold her position. That's what is required by law. If she chose to take time off, that was her doing, she was not forced out of her job due to pregnancy.
Sure, lots of people's parents have died, but most of these who are having abortions DO have living parents, friends and they ALL have a baby daddy.
Go to page 16 and get schooled by post #156 before you say any more "naive" things....
And, NO, the Dad is NOT always there ....what world do you live in...uh, TV and movies aren't real....did you know that ?
She did not lose her job b/c she was pregnant. She had to take time off and the job said they would hold her position. That's what is required by law. If she chose to take time off, that was her doing, she was not forced out of her job due to pregnancy.
Sure, lots of people's parents have died, but most of these who are having abortions DO have living parents, friends and they ALL have a baby daddy.
Lots of Iraq war vets who went off to war, and never came back to a new baby.
Rose colored glasses.
You say "well they may not have" and "most of these"
The point is its an impossible decision for anyone else to make for anyone else. Which is all pro choice is. I don't like abortions, I would never want my wife to get one, or my daughter to get one, unless the baby was badly deformed or their lives were in danger.
But you know what, it isn't my decision, I'd rather it not be yours either.
Then explain the purpose for it, we know it is not to inform her that there is a fetuse in there, everyone already knows that.
it does not stop a woman from getting an abortion it does not stop the doctor from performing an abortion it does allow the patient to see what the procedure will effect. The law in no way stops the woman from choosing.
it does not stop a woman from getting an abortion it does not stop the doctor from performing an abortion it does allow the patient to see what the procedure will effect. The law in no way stops the woman from choosing.
So basically the law assumes that women are too stupid to know what pregnancy is. And you are falling for it.
it does not stop a woman from getting an abortion it does not stop the doctor from performing an abortion it does allow the patient to see what the procedure will effect. The law in no way stops the woman from choosing.
So basically the law assumes that women are too stupid to know what pregnancy is. And you are falling for it.
My main concern with this law is that it MANDATES that you get one procedure that isn't associated with another procedure.
That means the state, if kept constitutional, has the right to tell you whatever other procedures you must have before doing something else. Hell it could evolve into them mandating that before you buy twinkies at the grocery store, you have to buy an orange also.
Its a massive over reach of state power by most standards.
I'm a states rights guy though, it just makes up my mind about never moving to Texas.
My main concern with this law is that it MANDATES that you get one procedure that isn't associated with another procedure.
That means the state, if kept constitutional, has the right to tell you whatever other procedures you must have before doing something else. Hell it could evolve into them mandating that before you buy twinkies at the grocery store, you have to buy an orange also.
Its a massive over reach of state power by most standards.
I'm a states rights guy though, it just makes up my mind about never moving to Texas.
Other states are enacting similar laws, including Florida. Did you take a look at the link I posted earlier (multiple times)?
Also, while I am against this law, I don't think the "slippery slope" argument is necessarily valid here. Courts have ruled that states can only regulate medical procedures such as abortion where there is a "compelling state interest" and they've ruled that, as far as abortion, there's a "compelling state interest" in protecting "potential life."
While some of us disagree that the state should be protecting "potential life" in this way, it's unlikely the "compelling state interest" argument could be applied to situations like the examples you mentioned earlier.
My main concern with this law is that it MANDATES that you get one procedure that isn't associated with another procedure.
That means the state, if kept constitutional, has the right to tell you whatever other procedures you must have before doing something else. Hell it could evolve into them mandating that before you buy twinkies at the grocery store, you have to buy an orange also.
Its a massive over reach of state power by most standards.
I'm a states rights guy though, it just makes up my mind about never moving to Texas.
Yes. It is a huge problem, constitutionally. It seriously invades a relationship that, in all other ways (think HIPAA), is a private one - the relationship between a person and his/her doctor. Privacy is strenuously protected, except for this one medical procedure.
I wouldn't move to Texas, either. Unfortunately, my brother lives there, so I do occasionally visit.
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