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Old 01-11-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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The is what the Republican candidates should be focused on instead of each other.

Poverty in America likely to get worse, report finds

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Millions of Americans will be forced into poverty in the coming years even as the US hauls itself out of the longest and deepest recession since the second world war.

A study from Indiana University, released on Wednesday, says the number of Americans living below the poverty line surged by 27% since the beginning of what it calls the "Great Recession" in 2006, driving 10 million more people into poverty.

The report warns that the numbers will continue to rise, because although the recession is technically over, its continued impact on cuts to welfare budgets and the quality of new, often poorly paid, jobs can be expected to force many more people in to poverty. It is also difficult for those already under water to get back up again.
All Obama has done is move money around. He has created no wealth and no opportunity for wealth.

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Still, the study says that although unemployment is officially falling, that may not be the whole story. Some workers give up looking for jobs and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate.

"Although the official rate of unemployment is declining, much of this apparent progress is attributable to the fact that many adults are giving up on the search for a job," it said.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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It would help if both parties would stop pandering to big business and the hispanic lobby and get serious about illegals. We have enough poverty. We don't need to continue to import it from south of the border.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:57 PM
 
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It would help if both parties would stop pandering to big business and the hispanic lobby and get serious about illegals. We have enough poverty. We don't need to continue to import it from south of the border.
Its sad that when Americans find themselves at the wrong end of the stick, they immediately start blaming blaming it on immigration or some other sad sack at the bottom of the pile. Times are tough right now because of corporate greed not immigrant need. You want to solve the problem, throw CEO's in jail if they allow their companies to hire illegals. BOOM! Problem solved.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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It would help if both parties would stop pandering to big business and the hispanic lobby and get serious about illegals. We have enough poverty. We don't need to continue to import it from south of the border.
The continuing support we give to illegals really doesn't make sense for state and local governments that are strapped for cash.

Very little makes sense right now.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Its sad that when Americans find themselves at the wrong end of the stick, they immediately start blaming blaming it on immigration or some other sad sack at the bottom of the pile. Times are tough right now because of corporate greed not immigrant need. You want to solve the problem, throw CEO's in jail if they allow their companies to hire illegals. BOOM! Problem solved.
Not immigration -- illegal immigration.

Times are not tough solely because of corporate greed. People in the top 1% have been greedy for awhile. That hasn't changed.

It's lies, greed, and improper enforcement of regulation (through lobbying and bribes) by those who are on the elite class (both government and private). It's is also a lack of knowledge and education and economic sense of the remaining 99%.

Collectively - we are all the problem. Want the solution?

The 99% needs to operate objectively in truth and learn basic economics. We need to help ourselves first, and then others. It's about self-interest - not selfishness. And it's in our self-interest that our neighbor is able to support himself and does well.

The 1% needs to be changed out (at least the ones in government) with new people with a new mindset in trying to help others.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:16 PM
 
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Not immigration -- illegal immigration.

Times are not tough solely because of corporate greed. People in the top 1% have been greedy for awhile. That hasn't changed.

It's lies, greed, and improper enforcement of regulation (through lobbying and bribes) by those who are on the elite class (both government and private). It's is also a lack of knowledge and education and economic sense of the remaining 99%.

Collectively - we are all the problem. Want the solution?

The 99% needs to operate objectively in truth and learn basic economics. We need to help ourselves first, and then others. It's about self-interest - not selfishness. And it's in our self-interest that our neighbor is able to support himself and does well.

The 1% needs to be changed out (at least the ones in government) with new people with a new mindset in trying to help others.
Times definitely ARE tough because of Corporate Greed. More than any other single cause, The Big Banks put us here by bribing government officials to de-regulate the investment community. Most Americans (the 1%) are WAY too busy trying to juggle 2 jobs in order to keep their heads (and their homes) above water to be dedicating the time needed to gain "knowledge and education and economic sense".
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Times definitely ARE tough because of Corporate Greed. More than any other single cause, The Big Banks put us here by bribing government officials to de-regulate the investment community. Most Americans (the 1%) are WAY too busy trying to juggle 2 jobs in order to keep their heads (and their homes) above water to be dedicating the time needed to gain "knowledge and education and economic sense".
People in government are greedy also. Why is it only corporate greed? There's government greed also - and that's worse because they aren't being productive. At least those in corporations are being productive or providing a service.

As far as education - people should always be learning. It doesn't need to be through a class. Read something every now and then - an article or some research or the Constitution - Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Bah..don't believe it.

Unemployment is lower..they just told us so.
Best Christmas spending in years..they just told us so.
Over 200K jobs created last month..record...they just told us so.
Stock market is doing great.

So just stop reading the "bad" news because the government tells us we're just fine and on the road to recovery.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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People in government are greedy also. Why is it only corporate greed? There's government greed also - and that's worse because they aren't being productive. At least those in corporations are being productive or providing a service.

As far as education - people should always be learning. It doesn't need to be through a class. Read something every now and then - an article or some research or the Constitution - Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics.
There is NO way you can equate corporate greed with an individual bureaucrat's greed. People do not have the luxury of taking the time to educate themselves; heck its even impossible for a family to afford higher education for their children.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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Thanks Barry!
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