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Old 09-02-2007, 07:59 AM
 
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my professor argued the best approach in handling the threats against the west would be uniting all the european countries (US, Canada, Europe, Russia, Argentina, Australia, some parts of Brazil...) into one entity, which would allow free flow of resources from within, in securing the interests and survival of the European way. this European entity would allow and guarantee permanent disengagement with non-Europeans and become economically, politically, and socially independent, by breaking all ties with the rest.

although this seems like a simple solution, how feasible would this be in our current political environment?
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:02 AM
 
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Whew, while I can see what he's saying this is really drawing the line in the sand here isn't it.... A true Us vs. Them world would be the result here I think...
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:06 AM
 
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my professor argued the best approach in handling the threats against the west would be uniting all the european countries (US, Canada, Europe, Russia, Argentina, Australia, some parts of Brazil...) into one entity, which would allow free flow of resources from within, in securing the interests and survival of the European way. this European entity would allow and guarantee permanent disengagement with non-Europeans and become economically, politically, and socially independent, by breaking all ties with the rest.

although this seems like a simple solution, how feasible would this be in our current political environment?
It's pretty much been a progression of Europeans (Europe, NA, SA, Australia) vs Africa and Asia. Although I think South Africa might be able to be used by Euro's since it's got decent ties with the US and Europe.

Look at how NASA does a lot of stuff for ESA, and the US and NATO, which is essentially the entire European continent now.
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:07 PM
 
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Not even remotely possible, for the nations you point to share a post-christian secular "western" culture. This culture has a large component of self-recrimination and societal "guilt" woven into the very fabric of its identity, (a vestige of its "Christian" roots), and, this being the case, your proposal would result in an INSTANT charge of racism. This would immediately alert the majority of the residents of this "western"-oriented area, and the idea would be rejected before it could even be discussed.
You might take your idea to the Muslim world, though- no doubt you'd find a willing and interested audience on the subject of a "Pan-Muslim" alliance. The idea is not altogether without merit, it's just that it would be culturally unacceptable here in the "enlightened" West. Nice try, though.......
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:33 PM
 
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I taught there was already a western alliance, and we are living in it
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:43 PM
 
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my professor argued the best approach in handling the threats against the west would be uniting all the european countries (US, Canada, Europe, Russia, Argentina, Australia, some parts of Brazil...) into one entity, which would allow free flow of resources from within, in securing the interests and survival of the European way. this European entity would allow and guarantee permanent disengagement with non-Europeans and become economically, politically, and socially independent, by breaking all ties with the rest.

although this seems like a simple solution, how feasible would this be in our current political environment?

Why "parts" of Brazil?
We already have NATO, which we should allow the Russians in on eventually.

Otherwise, the merging of Westernized, European majority settled nations sounds too much like "Oceania" of 1984 fame.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:20 PM
 
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Ha ha. Do you see how revved up people are about the supposed "superhighway" connecting Canada and Mexico? Now you want to throw Europe and part of Brazil (parts of Brazil??) into the mix? Good luck. Brazil actually has some of the highest tariffs and duties around currently.

And then where would we go for our cheap labor countries if we do not allow them into our alliance?
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:42 PM
 
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my professor argued the best approach in handling the threats against the west would be uniting all the european countries (US, Canada, Europe, Russia, Argentina, Australia, some parts of Brazil...) into one entity
Your professor's conclusion is that there is a threat to the west that requires unification of nations to stop. I disagree. Is there an actual threat that stands to wipe out western existence and if so, how does this threat plan on achieving such a goal? Is it more of a perceived threat, and if so why do we see it as such a threat, because we are weak or they are strong or both?
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:56 PM
 
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Why "parts" of Brazil?
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The northeast "shoulder" of Brazil is very heavily black, while the far south is heavily European and Japanese---I suspect this was on the OP's mind----
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Old 09-02-2007, 06:09 PM
 
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this European entity would allow and guarantee permanent disengagement with non-Europeans and become economically, politically, and socially independent, by breaking all ties with the rest.
This is nothing but the wet dream of Eurocentric racial supremacists who fantasize that they can survive the global economy simply by disengaging with the rest of the world. Even Hitler found it necessary to ally with the Japanese.
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