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Old 01-15-2012, 10:28 AM
 
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Iran is by no means weak. They have a navy that can shut down the Straits, (15 million barrels per day),torpedo's that travel over 200 mph which can easily sink oil tankers and battleships, jets that can carry bombs to Israel and any American base in the M.E., long range missiles that can destroy the Saudi oil fields or Israeli nuclear plants.
They also have Russia and China as their allies, they produce a lot of oil, of which China imports 25% of it's energy from them.

The world economies would collapse if the US decides to ratchet up this war with them.

There is a false flag scenario that is being considered by the US, it is not very smart. If the US and Israel decide to do this, our lives get real messy, and our young men and women in the military, get very dead.
Iran is weak comparative to the United States. They are the ones on the defensive. Iran has no ability to send troops to attack the US. It does not have a nuclear bomb.

My point is that the US is creating a bogeyman and amplifying threats. These are very typical procedures that our government and media follow as a prelude to war. I think the telltale signs are there and its very dangerous.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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It was a mistake to invade Iraq & fortunately we elected a President who won't make the same mistake & invade Iran. We now have a President who works with other nations to bring about stability.
Everything's under control, & you war mongers can relax & come out from from under your desks.
I voted for Obama in the hope that he would reverse our country's war mongering ways.

Unfortunately, I was wrong. He has sold out to our government's special interests and is just as warlike as any other president. I should have known, our special interests are entrenched too heavily to make any change possible.

If Ron Paul was elected, he would probably stick to his ethics, but then he'd be demonized so much that he wouldn't be re-elected.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Iran is weak comparative to the United States. They are the ones on the defensive. Iran has no ability to send troops to attack the US. It does not have a nuclear bomb.
1st Nuclear bombs are not what make a country strong, the control of energy does. 2nd how do you know that they don't have a bomb?

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My point is that the US is creating a bogeyman and amplifying threats. These are very typical procedures that our government and media follow as a prelude to war. I think the telltale signs are there and its very dangerous.
The US is acting out on the intentions of world Oligarchs to slow down China and Russia. Iran is a major supplier of Chinese Oil, and provides shipping lanes for it's purchases from Saudi.

If you go after your competitors energy supplier, you can manipulate them in other agreements.
This is short sighted, and will fail. But it is how Greedy globalists think.
China doesn't like the fact that oil is traded on dollars, they have been working with Russia to set up their own trading bourse. Some rich bastards don't like that, and that is why Iran is on the hit list.
Iraq tried it, so did Libya... what happened to them.

Needless to say, the young men and women of the military are the one's that pay the price for greed and power.

The US gov't is not represented by it's people, it's owned by globalistas.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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While I agree with our post I'll also say the US is working in their best interests. So is China/Russia etc. Of course they don't want to trade oil in dollars. The US holds that trump card and won't let it go easily as evidence Iraq and Libya like you say. German and France tried the same thing cutting a deal with Sadaam to trade in euros thinking their veto in the security council would ensure us not attacking and they could then move in. Turkey too as they wouldn't allow the 4th ID to land their prior to invasion. They didn't get their way and the EU is ready to collapse now instead of the US.
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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Default This just in...

Russia will treat attack on Iran as attack on Moscow.
Russia: Attack on Tehran is Attack on Moscow - Global Agenda - News - Israel National News
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:05 PM
 
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We really don't need to attack Iran. Just keep the gas from going in and bleed em try. The citizend will revolt soon enough unless they like walking everywhere.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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We really don't need to attack Iran. Just keep the gas from going in and bleed em try. The citizend will revolt soon enough unless they like walking everywhere.
It is not just the price of fuel for your own vehicles that is effected by rising oil. It is literally just about everything. The majority of food and supplies has to be shipped which is greatly effected by the price of oil. Everything is. Kinda scarey how our economy completely revolves around the price of that black crap.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:44 PM
 
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Well if we woulda started drilling here fifteen years ago we wouldn't be in this situation of the spigot running dry if OPEC turns on us. We are where we are. Iran will break long before we would. Hell a couple weeks of no food or gas going in there and they'd have the mullahs and jibbyjabber on a plane to DC to apologize with a can of Valvoline in their hands.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:07 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Thumbs down Obama: show some leadership and destroy Iran

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The title says it all. It is long past due to destroy that regime, the world's top terrorist sponsoring hell hole.

In the GOP clown car, only Ron Paul is speaking rationally about Iran. The rest of the chickenhawk field is so typical of neocon silliness; always having another stupid meaningless war in the on-deck circle and just salivating to get the combat underway.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Some T-1 Line
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The title says it all. It is long past due to destroy that regime, the world's top terrorist sponsoring hell hole.
I believe the U.S. is the world's top terrorist sponsoring hell hole. We spend 600+ billion, per year, to fund groups like al qaeda to do our little dirty work against countries like Russia only to cut them off, then tick them off, and have them turn against us.

Put yourselves in other people's shoes and you'd quickly see how your comments are just as, if not moreso, applicable to the U.S. than any of these small terror cells you dedicated an entire thread to. Let's see how you'd like it if you couldn't walk down the street without a bunch of drones flying over your head, a bunch of stealth bombers tearing up your neighborhoods, or foreign soldiers on every street corner in your community trying to force your country to adopt their principles and methods.

Ron Paul 2012. But, he'll never win...because he makes too much sense and this country isn't about being rational, but about clinching their Bibles and their guns while shouting "God bless America, and no place else."
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