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Old 01-13-2012, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Now isn't this the small government those on the right want ?
So does that mean the left is now for it as well ?

 
Old 01-13-2012, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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That represents the conservative idea of "logic".
No, it represents an obsessively partisan idea of "logic."
 
Old 01-13-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"Insourcing" may not be so great for the economy actually. It can result in increased costs for employers which could cause them to cut jobs or to raise prices, leading to inflation, or to go out of business, obviously causing job losses.
No. The companies will do it out of their own free will after they do their own cost analysis. The idea is to create an environment which will prompt them choose US over India. Many companies have already brought jobs back to US.

That is not the topic of this thread though. There is a thread going about it already.
 
Old 01-13-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Now isn't this the small government those on the right want ?
So does that mean the left is now for it as well ?
No, the right wants a neutered, impotent government... because they believe men are moral and angels and it is the government that gets in the way and forces them into corruption.

Leftists, like I, believes that the government is necessary because welfare of the people and the nation can't be left to the hawks. The difference between left and right is also in that, the right believes in guaranteed tax cuts (again... people/corporations being "angels" idea), whereas the left is about targeted tax cuts (accountability... if you don't produce the effect, you're not supposed to enjoy the fruits).
 
Old 01-13-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Now isn't this the small government those on the right want ?So does that mean the left is now for it as well ?
The right has a track record of aggressive government expansion while talking about small govt, but personally I don't care who is for what. As far as I am aware both parties have always agreed that removing waste is a good idea. It's common sense. I am for cutting government waste, and I am surprised there are so many opposed to it. This is what partisan spirit does to people. It makes them oppose common sense policies for partisan reasons.
 
Old 01-13-2012, 08:48 AM
 
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So, if Obama and Romney propose the same idea, you will oppose it when Obama says it, and support it when Romney says it?

You are a walking and talking definition of the partisan spirit.

Partisan has nothing to do with it. Romney is qualified to make this proposal and Obama is not. That is a fact.

Whose opinion do you value more when shopping for a plumber?

A. The snot-nosed kid stocking shelves in the hardware section at WalMart (Obama)
B. A professional plumbing company. (Romney)
 
Old 01-13-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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No. The companies will do it out of their own free will after they do their own cost analysis. The idea is to create an environment which will prompt them choose US over India. Many companies have already brought jobs back to US.

That is not the topic of this thread though. There is a thread going about it already.
I agree, as long as it's not through tariffs or penalties for doing business overseas. I was merely explaining why outsourcing is generally not terrible if it reduces a company's costs and why insourcing is generally not great if it increases a company's costs.

And, you're right, this isn't the thread for this discussion.
 
Old 01-13-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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"Insourcing" may not be so great for the economy actually. It can result in increased costs for employers which could cause them to cut jobs or to raise prices, leading to inflation, or to go out of business, obviously causing job losses.
Thank you for illustrating my point on the right wing irrationality. We dealt with this problem in the 1990s, right, compared to the 2000s? Besides, even with your hatred for jobs coming back (either due to you listening to a lunatic with a microphone on the radio/tv or based on your own belief system)... employers are doing so because it makes sense. Ask my company.
 
Old 01-13-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thank you for illustrating my point on the right wing irrationality. We dealt with this problem in the 1990s, right, compared to the 2000s? Besides, even with your hatred for jobs coming back (either due to you listening to a lunatic with a microphone on the radio/tv or based on your own belief system)... employers are doing so because it makes sense. Ask my company.
I want employers to do so if it makes sense, but not because they're forced to, as I said in a subsequent post. And only a moron would "hate" jobs coming back unless it actually resulted in less American jobs overall. BTW, I don't listen to conservative talk radio. I think it's garbage. My opinions are mine.

Thanks for illustrating my point on left wing irrationality. You think that simplistic solutions always work and that anyone who dares to see issues as complex (which they are 99% of the time) is "irrational."

Liberalism is a disorder. And, FWIW, I chuckled when you insinuated that I'm a right-winger. Right-leaning, yes, but right-winger? Hahahaha.
 
Old 01-13-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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"Insourcing" may not be so great for the economy actually. It can result in increased costs for employers which could cause them to cut jobs or to raise prices, leading to inflation, or to go out of business, obviously causing job losses.
outsourcing is bad for the economy , and now insourcing is bad for the economy. Seriously, which is it?
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