Breaking: Georgia Judge Subpoenas Obama, Original BC, College Admissions, Passport & Immigration/Naturalization Records (Israeli, problems)

[sanrene]

Originally Posted by Arus

You need standing in order to have merits. And wrong. Three cases made it to the SCOTUS on merits and were summarily dismissed.

Wrong. The merits/evidence have NEVER been weighed. All have been dismissed without trial. Unless you can provide the oral arguments in these three cases?

[DraggingCanoe]

Another reminder to the readers...the subpoena listed more than a birth certificate.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe

Another reminder to the readers...the subpoena listed more than a birth certificate.

Yes, documents that have nothing to with eligibility and are irrelevant to the case.

[DraggingCanoe]

Maybe Michelle can activate her law license...many here opined shes a brilliant attorney. One thing is certain..the defendant needs legal assistance.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe

One thing is certain..the defendant needs legal assistance.

wrong. Jablonski made the error not Obama. Jablonski is the lawyer for the Georgia Democratic Party. He doesn't represent Obama personally. He is a representative lawyer on his behalf in Georgia.

Yes, he needed help with his Motion to Quash as it was nothing but a mess. Luckily Judge Malihi provided him the context to make an amended motion. Now if Jablonski was smart, he'll file a nice new motion tomorrow morning.

[Steve McGarrett]

Originally Posted by Arus

Wrong. All it means is that the GA SOS will take the suggestion from the hearing on whether or not to put Obama on the Ballot.

The result is non-binding on the SOS.



and this is where birther show their ignorance. This isn't a criminal court. And again, no one has ordered the President to appear at this HEARING. It isn't a trial. It isn't a criminal trial. It's a hearing.

Here is the situation we Patriots are dealing with:

Obama entered the election, either by his decision or at the urge of others, possibly Pelosi and Reid who should know the difference between qualifications for Legislature and Executive. It was Obama's decision to continue in the race, even after all of the legal challenges.

Obama's campaign staff published the COLB online.

The media hyped and sensationalized the story, and crowds swelled at every Obama appearance.

Greed: People of color wanted a colored president and had greedy expectations if he won. Blacks wanted more money, jobs and no taxes.

Latinos wanted amnesty and open borders. Everybody forgot MLK Jr'd Dream of Character over color.

The DNC Convention elected Obama/Biden. Pelosi signed and sent two different Certificates of Nomination to the 50 states.

Obama got on the ballot.

The election went forth, and voters seeing Obama's "birth certificate" proving he was a US citizen, ignorantly voted for the colored man, while forgetting or having never been taught nbc required two US-Citizen parents.

The Electoral College voted, but failed to follow law (3USC15) requiring request for opposition to votes

- Obama's father was a British citizen, domiciled in Kenya.

- Obama Sr, was in the US on a student visa under the USA/British Treaty, signed in 1951 by President Truman.

- The treaty then attached the 1948 British Nationality Act (Part II Section 5(a)) to Obama Jr, at birth, making him a dual citizen US/UK.

- Obama Jr was born a dual citizen ((USA)+ (US) + (UK)), however the US Constitution Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 requires a natural born citizen ((USA soil) + (U.S. father) + (U.S. mother)).

- Obama's websites used propaganda and lies to mislead the public, because nothing that happens after the birth alters the citizenship defined by the circumstances at the moment of birth.

-- Circumstances of birth are a constant which cannot be altered.

- Barack Hussein Obama II, was born a dual-national and therefore never was a natural born citizen, and cannot ever be blessed or converted into a natural born citizen.

- He is not constitutionally eligible to be a US President.

- He was erroneously put into the 2008 Presidential Election.

CONCLUSION:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II was born one generation short of meeting the US Constitutional eligibility for a US President.
His children are natural born citizens, and he qualifies to be a US Senator, but fails to reach president.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by Steve McGarrett

Here is the situation we Patriots are dealing with:

You and your lot are not patriots. Far from one. A patriot doesn't post lies about anyone. A patriot doesn't call for military coups. A patriot doesn't go around spouting racist comments, do not post seditious rants, nor do they disrespect the person who holds the highest office in our land.

It was Obama's decision to continue in the race, even after all of the legal challenges.

False. He entered the race, before the legal challenges came. The first legal challenge appeared in June of 2008. He announced his candidacy in 2007.

Obama's campaign staff published the COLB online.

In response to people who were claiming that his middle name was Muhammad.

while forgetting or having never been taught nbc required two US-Citizen parents.

No one was ever taught this. This is a made up birther lie. And there are thousands of books published about US Citizenship, not including the millions of text books printed between 1940 to current that do not mention this requirement.

funny how not ONE SINGLE birther has ever posted a scanned copy from one the many history books they used while they were in school that taught them this.

CONCLUSION:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II was born one generation short of meeting the US Constitutional eligibility for a US President.

Only to people beyond help and belong in a mental institution.

[Steve McGarrett]

Originally Posted by Arus

You and your lot are not patriots. Far from one. A patriot doesn't post lies about anyone. A patriot doesn't call for military coups. A patriot doesn't go around spouting racist comments, do not post seditious rants, nor do they disrespect the person who holds the highest office in our land.

False. He entered the race, before the legal challenges came. The first legal challenge appeared in June of 2008. He announced his candidacy in 2007.

In response to people who were claiming that his middle name was Muhammad.

No one was ever taught this. This is a made up birther lie. And there are thousands of books published about US Citizenship, not including the millions of text books printed between 1940 to current that do not mention this requirement.

funny how not ONE SINGLE birther has ever posted a scanned copy from one the many history books they used while they were in school that taught them this.

Only to people beyond help and belong in a mental institution.

Answer this. Why did Obama feel compelled to state that his birth status was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948 rather than the 14th Amendment?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Arus

No one was ever taught this.

Many people were taught that... complete with a plethora of historical quotations stating exactly that. There are also many quotes stating that those born in the U.S. and NOT SUBJECT TO ANY FOREIGN POWER were birthright citizens, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866. That, alone, should give you the historical context in which the Framers constructed the natural born citizen requirement.

A natural born citizen is one born in the U.S. to citizen parents, thereby excluding any other country's automatic claim to said person's allegiance at birth.

The U.S. State Department does a good job explaining the problems of dual nationality. It should be ridiculously easy for everyone to understand that having a POTUS and Commander in Chief who was obligated to obey foreign law would be highly problematic.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by Steve McGarrett

Answer this. Why did Obama feel compelled to state that his birth status was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948 rather than the 14th Amendment?

Why does he have to mention the 14th Amendment at all? Unless he was once a slave, the 14th Amendment doesn't need to be cited, since EVERYONE who is a citizen of the US is governed by the US Constitution which includes all the Amendments.

And he would be correct the he was ALSO a British subject. But since he was born on US Soil, he could have been subjected to the citienship laws of Mars, and it wouldn't matter.

And Obama was no longer a British Subject once he turned 21 and didn't renounce his US Citizenship nor apply for recognition of that title in Britain (that is REQUIRED by British law)

Millions of Americans are subject to laws of various coutnries without realizing it. If you're grandfather was from Ireland, you would be an Irish citizen by their law, even though your parent(s) may be US citizens.