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Old 01-17-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I don't even know who Orly is, but the subpoena was issued over the judge's name so that makes it official.
Official does not mean enforceable.

 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Obama's lawyer need provide a single document to satisfy the legal standard of proof for their side of the case... a state issued and certified short form birth certificate similar to the one he first publicly released in June of 2008. Unless Orly already has in hand evidence that can rebut that single piece of paper, none of her subpoena's for inspection of the original records, long forms, or microfiche would survive the most cursory defense challenge. Subpoena's are not designed to facilitate fishing expeditions, and there are protections from abuse of the subpoena process.

Since we all know she has no such evidence in hand, she is unlikely to find the court congenial to the wide ranging and often inexplicable subpoena cloud she has frantically generated in this case.

So no... they do not need to provide the evidence that Orly (not "the court") has subpoenaed for President Obama's name to remain on the Georgia ballot. It is unlikely they will have to provide much of anything beyond the COLB.
No. Obama, or his representatives, must produce the documents the Court has subpoenaed. Period. End of discussion. Nothing else is relative or has any standing before the Court.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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And it doesn't stop there. The Judge Mahili from Georgia also subpoenaed Obama's certified Selective Service SS-5 form that many have deemed fraudulent. Witnesses have been subpoenaed to testify about the Connecticutt Social Security number he's been using. Obama’s qualifications have been challenged, so Obama has the ultimate burden to convince the fact finding judge that he is legally qualified to hold the office for which he seeks election. There is something going on here that is more important than the subpoena. If Obama fails to produce he could be left off the ballot. If Obama fails to qualify, a majority of the People are going to realize he is not a NBC. It says this from the article:


"In an order written January 3, 2012, Malihi ruled that Georgia state law is very clear – any candidate for federal or state office must meet the qualifications of that office and that Georgia electors have the right to challenge those qualifications in court. As a result, Malihi flatly denied Obama’s motion to dismiss and scheduled a hearing for January 26."


Obama is not too popular in Georgia and this could be the case that breaks him. No way the MSM can’t block the story if this happens. It should be a interesting day on January 26th at 9am in the Georgia courthouse. This is just one of three different cases or ballot challenges the judge will hear that day.



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God bless that state for still having common sense~
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:48 PM
 
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No. Obama, or his representatives, must produce the documents the Court has subpoenaed. Period. End of discussion.
orly's attempt to serve the subpoena in hawaii has already been rejected by the hawaiian court. video of the hearing is in this thread.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Official does not mean enforceable.
Why not? The Court has jurisdiction over this particular question and has the power to rule against Obama's name appearing on the ballot.

Whether or not the Court has the power to enforce its subpoena is immaterial. It DOES have the power to take his name off the ballot if such subpoenaed evidence is not produced.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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Official does not mean enforceable.
Obama is a Communist. Nothing is enforceable if he wants to stick his narcissistic nose way, high in the air and refuse it. Not for now, anyway.

Handcuffs may be the first thing that forces him to comply with all of our laws. Watching...waiting and wondering.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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orly's attempt to serve the subpoena in hawaii has already been rejected by the hawaiian court. video of the hearing is in this thread.

You're mixing issues and confusing rulings. This one applies ONLY to the State of Georgia and has NOTHING to do with previous efforts. This ruling was only issued yesterday.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why? If he can't prove he's qualified to have his name on the ballot in Georgia, why not other states as well?
Don't get ahead of yourself. The hearings are over a week away.

His name will be on the Georgia ballot, without any of Orly's subpoena's being complied with.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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You're mixing issues and confusing rulings. This one applies ONLY to the State of Georgia and has NOTHING to do with previous efforts. This ruling was only issued yesterday.
you dont actually believe anything will happen with this do you?

i wish i came up with the birther thing years ago. would be a millionaire with you people.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Don't get ahead of yourself. The hearings are over a week away.

His name will be on the Georgia ballot, without any of Orly's subpoena's being complied with.
Let me say this again and see if you understand: That subpoena is NOT Orly's! It is a subpoena issued by the Court at hand and, if those documents are not produced at the hearing next week, Barack Obama's name will NOT appear on the ballot for the Georgia Democratic primary.
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