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Old 01-24-2012, 01:49 AM
 
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And if said "self authenticating document" is not authentic?
You are assuming that is teh case. Birthers have yet to provide evidence that thee COLB as released by Obama is not authentic.

howevere we have the statements of Hawaii officials who say it is.

State officials trumps no-name frauds any day of the week.

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Does the Constitution protect fraud?
does the constitution protect murder? Because nowhere does it say that murder is illegal.

 
Old 01-24-2012, 01:50 AM
 
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Why not? He may well have relevant testimony.
only if he was present at the birth. beyond that anything he could offer about eligibility would be hearsay.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 01:50 AM
 
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Thanks Orly...

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/motiondenied.png (broken link)
 
Old 01-24-2012, 01:53 AM
 
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yes thanks Orly for showing the nation just how incompetent of a lawyer you are. you are the number one source of making the Republican party look very stupid.

Only guarantees with every claim that comes out of her mouth, that Obama will be re-elected, and in another landslide.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 01:59 AM
 
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Thanks Orly...
dean haskins, organizer of 'the birther summit", would beg to differ. he sees orly's antics as detrimental to the birthers:

" I then saw articles stating, in no uncertain terms, that Barack Obama had been ordered by a judge to "stand trial" in Georgia, and that Orly Taitz was finally granted "discovery." Out of intense curiosity, I began looking seriously into these claims (something, I fear, many of us have been remiss at doing).
Here is what I discovered about those fantastic claims: none of them were actually true—at least, not in a legal sense."

OF SUBPOENAS, TRIALS, AND A VEXATIOUS LITIGANT (http://www.birthersummit.org/news/74-of-subpoenas-trials-and-a-vexatious-litigant.html - broken link)
 
Old 01-24-2012, 02:03 AM
 
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yes thanks Orly for showing the nation just how incompetent of a lawyer you are. you are the number one source of making the Republican party look very stupid.

Only guarantees with every claim that comes out of her mouth, that Obama will be re-elected, and in another landslide.
The Republican party is not a part of this proceeding. They played no role.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 02:10 AM
 
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only if he was present at the birth. beyond that anything he could offer about eligibility would be hearsay.
I'm beginning to think you're more concerned with defending Obama than determining the truth.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 02:16 AM
 
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If the SCOTUS over turns Minor the defendant can escape the NBC definition. The defendant still has to overcome the holding in WKA. He cannot.

He's trapped. It was a freeper who suggested a seam can be located via the ballot challenge.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 02:19 AM
 
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I'm beginning to think you're more concerned with defending Obama than determining the truth.
nope, just following the law. if the uncle was not present at birth what testimony could he give that wouldn't be hearsay? i imagine if he had an announcement card that said "it's a boy!...... from: someplace not the US" he could submit that and testify about receiving/maintaining it. outside of that improbability..... not much to offer the court.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 02:38 AM
 
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nope, just following the law. if the uncle was not present at birth what testimony could he give that wouldn't be hearsay? i imagine if he had an announcement card that said "it's a boy!...... from: someplace not the US" he could submit that and testify about receiving/maintaining it. outside of that improbability..... not much to offer the court.
The illegal alien uncle can testify the defendants father was not a US citizen.
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