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Old 01-19-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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HIS records are SEALED by HIM.
You were corrected twice on this now. The first time you get a pass for innocent ignorance. But when you then repeat it, it is officially a lie.

None of Obama's records have ever been "sealed."
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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If you are going to quote me use the complete quote and do NOT alter it.

My post said, "Your constant referral of anyone who has responded to this posting that you don't agree with as as a birther only shows how ignorant you are."
Where did he alter anything?

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Old 01-19-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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You are making a fool of yourself. You are making things up.I have NEVER said or insinuated that he wasn't qualified. In fact most of the responders on here have never made such a statement.
As far as making a fool of oneself, you already filled that position.
Your assertion is undercut by the post that I was responding to:
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President Bush had his record as the Governer of Texas for the people to judge if he was QUALIFIED for office. All we had for Barry was his "Harvard education" and we want to see what that included. He sure didn't do anythig of value AFTER leaving school that qualifies him for the highest office in the country.
Kevin was CLEARLY questioning Obama's qualification.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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Your constant referral of anyone who has responded to this posting that you don't agree with as as a birther only shows how ignorant you are.

HIS records are SEALED by HIM.
I know that is hard for someone of your inelligence to understand but, that IS THE FACT.
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You were corrected twice on this now. The first time you get a pass for innocent ignorance. But when you then repeat it, it is officially a lie.

None of Obama's records have ever been "sealed."
it is not my fault you can't understand what "sealed" means. I have explained it more than twice.

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Old 01-19-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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it is not my fault you can't understand what "sealed" means. I have explained it more than twice.

Are you calling me a.liar? It is YOUR ignorance that is on display.
It seems to be YOU that doesn't understand what "sealed" means.

And since it's been explained repeatedly to you that Obama hasn't "sealed" any of his records, that their privacy is maintained by other entitities like schools and government in accordance with policies and laws that apply to everyone, your continual assertion that Obama has taken some action to keep the records private is, indeed, a fallacy.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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When one uses the term "sealed," it is implied that one took some kind of official action to have a court (or other overseeing body) seal them, the way juvenile records are sealed.

But the way Quick Enough uses the term, since college records are personal, not public, records he considers Obama's records "sealed." That's horribly misleading. By any normal use of the word, Obama's records were not sealed -- he took no action to restrict public access.

By that weird definition, everyone who went to college has had their records sealed.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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When one uses the term "sealed," it is implied that one took some kind of official action to have a court (or other overseeing body) seal them, the way juvenile records are sealed.

But the way Quick Enough uses the term, since college records are personal, not public, records he considers Obama's records "sealed." That's horribly misleading. By any normal use of the word, Obama's records were not sealed -- he took no action to restrict public access.

By that weird definition, everyone who went to college has had their records sealed.
If records are NOT available and can ONLY be accessed by the owner or who he gives permission to, they are in essence sealed. Only the owner can remove that seal.

We can agree to disagree. I'm done.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Another attempt to confuse. HE has "sealed" them by not releasing them I know it hard for some to understand because of their blind faith for him but, facts are facts.

I recall all the hoopla about how bad a student W Bush was and how smart Kerry was. Then lo and behold the records show that Bush got better grades then Kerry. HMM! I wonder how the transcripts of THEIR records got exposed?

I also notice NONE has answered the question, why won't he release his records?
Sorry, words have meaning! Remember the flap when Obama made a snarky comment about "Special Olympics"? "Sealed" means something different than "protected by privacy laws".

I have no idea how Bush and Kerry's transcripts got exposed, but that is not the topic of this thread.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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If records are NOT available and can ONLY be accessed by the owner or who he gives permission to, they are in essence sealed. Only the owner can remove that seal.

We can agree to disagree. I'm done.
If the records' availability is restricted by law or by standing policy, the owner cannot remove that "seal", the owner has no power to undo the laws or policies. Not even the President of the United States.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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This is the first time I have heard a reporter ask this question and it's about cotton pickin time someone did. Ed Henry did and the response that Jay Carney gave was not even on topic and way out in left field. What part of the question did Carney NOT understand?


Watch Jay Carney

Ed Henry to White House: Why Not Release Obama's College Transcripts - 1/17/2012 - YouTube


Blast From The Past. Reporter at W.H. Press briefing asks Robert Gibbs why Obama is using a Connecticut Social Security Number (reserved for Connecticut applicants) when he never lived there or had a mailing address there. Watch Gibbs stutter and change the subject.



Robert Gibbs Is Asked About Obama's Connecticut Social Security Number.flv - YouTube
One Big As Mistake America
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