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Old 01-23-2012, 07:25 PM
 
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Most on your side voted for the wars.

But I digress.
The vote for Afghanistan was nearly uninaminous. Not so with the war in Iraq. And even most members of Congress (on both sides) were surprised when the bombs started dropping in Baghdad. Most thought he would come back to Congress or at least go back to the UN. He didn't do that, did he?

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Lefties want "compassion" for everyone (regardless of their choice, crimes and lifestyles) except for the unborn. It's open season on the babies.
Wow, I was wondering when someone would make the connection between foodstamps, the war in Iraq, and abortion. Brilliant.
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:25 PM
 
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Food stamps is not meant to fix the long-term problems facing the poor. It is meant to keep them from going hungry. The problem is one of fixing the education system and fixing the economy. The two go hand in hand. You cannot fix one without fixing the other.
Even when the economy is great there are people that abuse the system.

There is no excuse for generational welfare.

You can find people in the exact same situations that strive for success while others do absolutely nothing to improve themselves.
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:28 PM
 
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And just how did those children get here? Did the tooth fairy drop them off? No, those children are here because of conscious choices that the parents made. EVERYTHING that happens to us in our life is a result of a conscious choice that we make.
And someone who loses their 90k a year position to work a 20k a year sales position is at fault because they have four children? The only way I can answer this nonsense, is with the quote of another user.

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You're now off topic. It's about food stamps not your blanket assumption all who collect food stamps are ghetto lazy trash.
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Anyone who thinks that their life is somehow beyond their control either have a victim mentality or are too stupid or lazy to change it.
You're naive to think chance has nothing to do with the outcomes of our lives. We have rather limited control, and as humans, we're lucky we are aware of the great ant colony which we have created.

But if you know some kind of secret that lets us stop cancer, let the human race know--that'll solve a lot of problems.

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There have been many, many people with children and jobs who have gone to school and bettered themselves. Sure it's difficult but it isn't impossible. You just have to WANT IT and you have to be able to turn off American Idol and focus on what you want.
The standard for living in this country shouldn't be working 60+ hours a week and scraping by. That's asinine and cruel. Yes, some people can do it. Not everyone can, and this fallacy of social darwinism championed by your ilk is just, as stated, asinine and cruel. We have a moral responsability to help others. Government social programs have the most resources and accountability to ensure that happens.

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Poor people are poor because they refuse to accept change.They refuse to apply themselves by working 70 hours a week, as necessary to improve the quality of their lives. There is no one stopping anyone from being successful, except THEMSELVES.

20yrsinBranson
Good thing nobody gets cancer. Or into a car accident. Or loses their job. Or is forced to move. Or any number of a thousand different impossible to predict events which change lives for the worse.

No, we're all ****ing perfect. Just like you.

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Obama is pushing food stamps as president instead of jobs.. that is the reality. He won't let the Keystone pipe line come through and that would create thousands of new jobs. Obama throws money away on his green agenda factories that go bankrupt instead he should create an atmosphere of less legislation to give businesses a chance to hire instead of wasting the peoples money on his crazy green ideas that nobody is buying.
Keystone was being railroaded through congress by Big Oil. Nebraska was rejecting the pipeline due to severe ecological concerns. This might be the first major democratic action taken by our president in his four years in office. He made the right choice, and Republicans tried to help Big Oil by championing this under the auspices of "jobs.' I guess we'll need thousands of people to clean-up the wreck it'll cause in Nebraska.

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If you don't see how absurd this is I can't help you man.........
Not everyone wants to be a chemist. Why is this absurd?
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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Wow, you seem to have the answer. You should start your own employment agency.
I've done all of those jobs as a kid, plus a few....dish washing at a hospital, setting bowling pins and working at a local grocery store.

It's really not that difficult AND it builds character!
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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If you can afford cable TV, you can afford food.
If we can afford 700 billion a year on defense, we can afford the Food Stamp program.
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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So? What's your beef?
The leftie/socialist/progressive/liberal mindset.

I mean, I really wouldn't care, but they place America at risk.
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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Quit making things up, Where did I say everyone.

Be less dramatic, are you denying there aren't lazy people collecting welfare?

BTW there are also lazy rich people, the only difference is they pay their own way.
I am saying that the very few who are gaming the system are impacting the vast majority who are not and actually need the assistance. And those who completely oppose any kind of assistance are also gaming the system by pretending that they know what they are talking about when they use the "bad guy sucking from the government tit" card. So you tell me who holds the moral high ground?

As for the rich, if you truly believe that a CEO deserves a golden parachute worth tens of millions to hundreds of millions of dollars when he runs his company into the ground, with the result that thousands are put out of work, I know of a bridge (to nowhere) in Alaska you can buy for a song and a dance.
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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Not everyone wants to be a chemist. Why is this absurd?
It's absurd because in the real world you need to prepare yourself for a job market that exists somewhere other than in your own head.

I'd love to be a Nigerian movie critic but no one is hiring for that..........
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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If the working poor are unable to buy food... I would like to know why... is it poor financial planning? is it because of low income? what is it and how do we fix it? Unfortunately, there are people here who think throwing food at them will fix it... If its a problem of low wages, then increase the minimum wage... if it is poor financial planning, then cut it off and force them to think... more likely, it is a mixtures of things, I rather the Food Stamp program would actually evaluate each family and tell them how to fix their problems or tell the government what needs to be done... actually fixing the problem is the solution... throwing money at it is idiotic...
Exactly!
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:32 PM
 
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Probably because we keep electing self-serving incompetent yes men for the corporations.
obama.
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