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View Poll Results: Do you agree with requiring all schools to serve healthier lunches?
Yes 94 73.44%
No 30 23.44%
Not sure 4 3.13%
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:37 PM
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If this mandate is so good for school children, why don't we force all Americans to eat healthy foods. We should force them to exercise too. If they are caught eating fatty food they should first be fined, then be arrested. You libs are nuts!!!
Logic fail. We're talking about government subsidized lunches. There should be some standards.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:39 PM
 
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I'm not complaining, and I have no problem paying for them. My point is that they're not as cheap as you think. As far as poor families go--a single mom with two kids making minimum wage would have a $15,000 annual income before paying SS, and would be eligible for about $150 a month in food stamps. That's less than $1,250 in monthly income, along with the food stamps. After rent, utilities, transportation costs, clothing, medical and dental bills (they might be able to get kids on free health insurance, but the adult wouldn't be covered) there isn't much left, including money to pack a school lunch at home. I don't begrudge kids from families like that free school lunches for a second.
Try $523 (max) for a family of 3 on food stamp allowance for 2012.
The government raised the amounts people get for food stamps now.

A Quick Guide to Food Stamp Eligibility and Benefits — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:40 PM
 
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In defense, not every child is going to enjoy the Brussels sprouts. Adding some variety is a lot better than just lumping some potatoes and broccoli on a plate.



I don't mean to burst your bubble mate, but that's what the Republican Party has enshrined and become. The religious-right, Tea Party Republican? That is the Republican Party now. It was pointed out in another thread, that in order to paint President Obama as a far-left marx-socialist liberal, the Republican's had to move even further to the right.

You're now classified as a centrist. Congratulations, here's your complementary voucher for gray slacks and cauliflower.
The republican party is as divided now as I've seen it in my lifetime, and the problem is that one side is much louder than the other. The leadership has become more radical because they're pandering to a radical portion of the base, but I don't think that's where a majority of the party is--just the more vocal members. My guess is that things are starting to come to a head, and changes are on the horizon. We need two strong political parties in this country, and it's time the majority of R's take the party back from the loonies.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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Try $523 (max) for a family of 3 on food stamp allowance for 2012.
The government raised the amounts people get for food stamps now.

A Quick Guide to Food Stamp Eligibility and Benefits — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
That's a good thing.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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The republican party is as divided now as I've seen it in my lifetime, and the problem is that one side is much louder than the other. The leadership has become more radical because they're pandering to a radical portion of the base, but I don't think that's where a majority of the party is--just the more vocal members. My guess is that things are starting to come to a head, and changes are on the horizon. We need two strong political parties in this country, and it's time the majority of R's take the party back from the loonies.
I just posted some research done by OKCupid on another thread (I think). It shows that self-identified liberals are pretty scattered on economic and social issues--they represent a pretty large base of people. Self-identified conservatives, on the other-hand, are pretty narrow in their beliefs. Online dating and social networking might be a bit of a younger\liberal thing to do, but it doesn't account for why there is such diversity in "liberals," and a lack of it in conservatives.

But, if anything, it shows that liberals aren't really cohesive, so depending on the issues, there might appear to be more conservatives supporting it than there really are.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:48 PM
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One or two meals at school won't do it. Kids spend more time outside of school than inside.

Sure they serve breakfast. But who tells the kids that having a soda on the way to school is not healthy ? It certainly isn't their parents.

The war on obesity will not be won at school. It has to be fought "at home". Your eating habits are formed at home, not school.
The waste at school is unbelievable. Sure they serve it but how many kids are actually EATING IT ?
Out of 21 meals a week, five school lunches is ~25% of a student's meals. 10 meals a week (breakfast and lunch) is about half. There is every reason for these meals to be healthy, for modeling purposes in addition to good nutrition at the taxpayers' dollar. Even the kids who pay full price are getting a subusidized meal, something lost on a lot of people on this board.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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I just posted some research done by OKCupid on another thread (I think). It shows that self-identified liberals are pretty scattered on economic and social issues--they represent a pretty large base of people. Self-identified conservatives, on the other-hand, are pretty narrow in their beliefs. Online dating and social networking might be a bit of a younger\liberal thing to do, but it doesn't account for why there is such diversity in "liberals," and a lack of it in conservatives.

But, if anything, it shows that liberals aren't really cohesive, so depending on the issues, there might appear to be more conservatives supporting it than there really are.
I'm guessing you have an age bias with your data, because contrary to what many believe, I see younger conservatives as being much more radical and unbending than their middle aged counter parts. My husband and I have been involved in R party politics for nearly 40 years. You see older tea party members on TV, but when you talk to most middle aged conservatives they tend to be much less black and white on many issues, especially compared to very young Rs. I think life experience tends to make most people a lot less one sided as they age. I've always been a moderate R--the party leadership didn't start to take a more radical turn until the 1990s.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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I'm not complaining, and I have no problem paying for them. My point is that they're not as cheap as you think. As far as poor families go--a single mom with two kids making minimum wage would have a $15,000 annual income before paying SS, and would be eligible for about $150 a month in food stamps. That's less than $1,250 in monthly income, along with the food stamps. After rent, utilities, transportation costs, clothing, medical and dental bills (they might be able to get kids on free health insurance, but the adult wouldn't be covered) there isn't much left, including money to pack a school lunch at home. I don't begrudge kids from families like that free school lunches for a second.[/quote]
I do, considering that they also usually have cable/satellite TV with one of the most expensive packages and all kinds of expensive, unnecessary, electronic goodies.

They always seem to have money for those things, don't they?
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:20 PM
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I do, considering that they also usually have cable/satellite TV with one of the most expensive packages and all kinds of expensive, unnecessary, electronic goodies.

They always seem to have money for those things, don't they?
No. I have worked as a public health nurse with poor families, visiting them in their homes. That's another "urban legend" that is really a crock of BS.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:30 PM
 
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I do, considering that they also usually have cable/satellite TV with one of the most expensive packages and all kinds of expensive, unnecessary, electronic goodies.

They always seem to have money for those things, don't they?
And you know this how? I know some very poor single moms, and they don't have any of those things. I know a fair chunk of people with much higher incomes--working class--who don't have them either, or they might have a few of those things. I think some of you create these imaginary people to justify your position, and some may exist to feed the stereotype, but it's a long way from the norm. I pay more in taxes than most people make in a year, and my kids don't have every electronic goodie either.
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