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Old 02-13-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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I've seen some of the work quality, done by someone on drugs (including weed), and I don't even want one of them changing my dog's flee collar.
How could that be? drugs are illegal!
Thanks for making the point that legal or not, people are going to do them.If they were decriminalized, will you start doing them? I think not.
Oh and what about people addicted to perfectly legal pain killers and other prescription drugs? I suppose you don't have a problem with them because the government says they are okay?
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I've seen some of the work quality, done by someone on drugs (including weed), and I don't even want one of them changing my dog's flee collar.

Without drugs, we would not be enjoying most of the music from the past 50 years including Jim Morrison, Elvis, Cher, ELO, etc, etc.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Without drugs, we would not be enjoying most of the music from the past 50 years including Jim Morrison, Elvis, Cher, ELO, etc, etc.

Robin Williams said it best; the surgeon general's warning on a pack of joints will probably read... marijuana causes music to be..... AWESOME.... yes even Yanni!
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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As much as I would love to see it end, it won't. There is simply too much money involved from big business and their lobby groups to keep it going. Many say; "look at prohibition in the '30's and what a joke it was," while that is very true, big business and their lobby groups didn't own the government then like they do now
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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Many good points made here and others that show their fear. It's understandable. These are the same folks that believe things like the old "Reefer Madness" movie.

But many are waking up to see how these policies are infringing on our freedom and liberty. Yet, it will take a huge effort to get the Government, especially the Feds, out of the 'business'. Lots of tax dollars being used to fund thousands of jobs. And, as mentioned, that's not even considering the big lobbying organizations and 'values' PACs.

Marijuana Backers To GOPers: Why Not Cut The DEA Budget? | TPMMuckraker

The DEA has over 10,000 employees with a budget of over $2.4 Billion.

Drug Enforcement Administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Big businesses want to keep these drugs illegal, but so do a lot of civil servants who are getting cash from the dealers, local cops in small towns are on the take, probably mayors. Heck, our own armed forces have been caught many times smuggling drugs into the US - from Latin America, from areas we are at war with, closed caskets being flown back to the US from Viet Nam and Afghanistan. All these holier than thou super patriots, just getting payoffs and getting rich on smuggling drugs.

Every nation that has tried the US system of handling drugs has proven that it just does not work. It merely raises costs in prison population and in police. They have opted, mostly, for a sliding scale of illegality, depending on the danger level of the drug. Instead of all that prison money, just wasted, they have rehab clinics that are readily available. It's not perfect, but is a lot more successful than our lousy system which just keeps the corruption going on.
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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I read just this morning that George Soros was one of the earliest speakers against the War on Drugs. I wonder if he thinks the American will can be destroyed with getting more drugs into the hands of the people. I will be watching who posts these war on drugs posts from now on to see possible supporters of Soros and what he wants for us.

so let me be clear then, you're a big government guy? is that correct? roy, did you stop to notice that in some states it's now illegal for you to order rare hamburger? there are powerful people in this administration who believe meat should be outlawed, period. they also want to eliminate cars from our landscape too. you think it's only this administration? nice try, but bush snr signed the rio accord and put forward the funding to implement agenda 21. perhaps you should stop a have a little think before you join the govt cheerleading team

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Old 02-13-2012, 03:55 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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All of the above and more. But as long as people seem to take an esay escape route, to ward off their troubles, the war on drugs will never cease, only increase. Many weak people out there, sad, and they take the easy way out by means of drugs.

You can have it all and the silver platter, and still be a troubled soul, and that troubled soul, takes it upon themselves to take the easy way out, they think drugs is the answer.

Sad as it is, there are people out there, who start their day with drugs.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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They also have a show for people like Roy: Doomsday preppers: Doomsday Preppers - National Geographic Channel

i doubt roy's a doomsday prepper. i think he might be intelligent enough to know that when they come to take his guns, the arguments from the anti gun crowd will sound frighteningly similar to those arguments used by proponents of the drug war. doomsday preppers hate big govt, roy evidently loves big govt
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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What do Tony Bennett and Central American leaders having in common?

Considering drug legalization is necessary.

Tony Bennett Is Right -- Legalizing Drugs Would Save Lives | Reuters
Can Guatemala's President Reconcile Iron Fist with Drug Legalization? (http://insightcrime.org/insight-latest-news/item/2225-can-guatemalas-president-reconcile-iron-fist-with-drug-legalization - broken link)
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Earth
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What do Tony Bennett and Central American leaders having in common?

Considering drug legalization is necessary.

Tony Bennett Is Right -- Legalizing Drugs Would Save Lives | Reuters
Can Guatemala's President Reconcile Iron Fist with Drug Legalization? (http://insightcrime.org/insight-latest-news/item/2225-can-guatemalas-president-reconcile-iron-fist-with-drug-legalization - broken link)
Not to mention that if you know that there is an issue on which the late Ayn Rand, the late William F. Buckley, Walter Williams, and George Shultz agree with Noam Chomsky, Ralph Nader, Barbara Ehrenreich, and Dennis Kucinich on, the odds are that said stand on said issue is going to be correct.
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