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Old 04-01-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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What would it truly take to end the "War on Drugs"?

How can we regain our liberty from the government when they have so many jobs wrapped up into it?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/us...drug-laws.html

Purpose of Drug War : Provide Employment for Cops | Liberty Thinkers
Drugs are bad for your health. It's a government health care plan. With prison bars and cops waiting to thump your skull.

I'e made the argument if you had peace on earth, you'd have a whole lot of unemployed people on earth, too.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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It will never end. Too much money involved from both sides (bad guys and good guys). It's a thriving industry and the government is thriving off it.
This is how it started in Mexico, no?
Gangs eliciting the cooperation of government and both profiting.
Do you think we could turn into the chaos that now is Mexico?

Isn't the legalization of drugs the only way to prevent that?
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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The war on drugs is one of the largest sources of funding for police and prisons. Good luck shutting down that cash cow.
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This is how it started in Mexico, no?
Gangs eliciting the cooperation of government and both profiting.
Do you think we could turn into the chaos that now is Mexico?

Isn't the legalization of drugs the only way to prevent that?
Follow the money...it's NOT about wiping out drug use.
Legalization would cut their revenue.

We already have some shades of the bad guys eliciting cooperation of USG agents.

Customs agency's rapid expansion parallels rise in corruption - Los Angeles Times
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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Follow the money...it's NOT about wiping out drug use.
Legalization would cut their revenue.

We already have some shades of the bad guys eliciting cooperation of USG agents.

Customs agency's rapid expansion parallels rise in corruption - Los Angeles Times
I agree with you about legalization, but I don't think that will happen. The real reason of it not happening is money, not the holier than thou speeches that clergy and politicians mouth.

What I am thinking is how this country can deteriorate into a similar situation as Mexico, with civil servants being bought off (already happening) and vying gangs taking over. What's to stop that from happening here?

It seems as though steps to a laddered legalization is the only solution, along with treating this as a health issue and not jailing mere users.

There is a lot of big money on every front preventing that from happening, so we just allow our society to deteriorate to these degenerates.
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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But so many conservatives are so highly addicted to the nonsense of Reefer Madness that it's quite a stretch to hope than just marijuana alone can be legalized. For instance, my Republican state senator is too scared of making medical marijuana legal, because he says marijuana is a gateway drug.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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But so many conservatives are so highly addicted to the nonsense of Reefer Madness that it's quite a stretch to hope than just marijuana alone can be legalized. For instance, my Republican state senator is too scared of making medical marijuana legal, because he says marijuana is a gateway drug.
"Gateway drug" is an unproven (and implausible) excuse. But I hear what you're saying. I grew up along the AL/TN border and just spent the past decade in the reddest of red areas known as the FL Panhandle.

I'm heading west. Seriously. ASAP.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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What I am thinking is how this country can deteriorate into a similar situation as Mexico, with civil servants being bought off (already happening) and vying gangs taking over. What's to stop that from happening here?
That's a side effect of drugs being illegal, not something that will happen when they're legal. Legitimate businesses will take over where gangs and cartels now rule. That will probably be the single best effect of ending the war on (some) drugs.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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That's a side effect of drugs being illegal, not something that will happen when they're legal. Legitimate businesses will take over where gangs and cartels now rule. That will probably be the single best effect of ending the war on (some) drugs.
Totally agree.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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Any polls on American's view on the war on drugs? I could be wrong, but I feel like a majority of Americans feel like the war isn't working. I feel like the only reason we're remaining course is because of the politicians and lack of media attention.
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