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Old 01-27-2012, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Again sir...several socialist nations have millionaires and even billionaires. Why should Venezuela be any different?
Not talking about millionaires and billionaires. Stay on topic.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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Not talking about millionaires and billionaires. Stay on topic.
There is no point Summers. None whatsoever. Chavez's daughter is holding up some dollars. SO WHAT!!

What am i supposed to take from what you're putting forth here? There are wealthy people in socialist countries. Chavez is probably wealthy being that he's the president of his country. Know about any broke presidents? I can't think of any.

Sorry, but there is no larger issue here, although i tried to find one.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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There is no point Summers. None whatsoever. Chavez's daughter is holding up some dollars. SO WHAT!!

What am i supposed to take from that what you're putting forth here? There are wealthy people in socialist countries. Chavez is probably wealthy being that he's the president of his country. Know about any broke presidents? I can't think of any.

Sorry, but there is no larger issue here, although i tried to find one.
My apologies if you cannot find the general theme, but it's not focused on rich and poor. Hint: it has to do with equal application of laws.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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My apologies if you cannot find the general theme, but it's not focused on rich and poor. Hint: it has to do with equal application of laws.
The piece didn't say that there was any lawbreaking going on. It said that dollars were difficult to obtain, not that they were illegal to obtain.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The piece didn't say that there was any lawbreaking going on. It said that dollars were difficult to obtain, not that they were illegal to obtain.
That's nice.

When I see a regular Venezuelan citizen holding up approximately the same amount of currency in an online video, that will convince me that the laws apply equally. Until then, I will assume that "difficult to obtain" implies that only Socialists rather than the people may obtain large quantities legally. Unless, of course, you have evidence to refute that?
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:38 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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That's nice.

When I see a regular Venezuelan citizen holding up approximately the same amount of currency in an online video, that will convince me that the laws apply equally. Until then, I will assume that "difficult to obtain" implies that only Socialists rather than the people may obtain large quantities legally. Unless, of course, you have evidence to refute that?
So, you are agreeing that the wealthy in the USA are socialists?

The rest of us are 'the people'. Is that what you are inferring?


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Old 01-27-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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That's nice.

When I see a regular Venezuelan citizen holding up the same amount of currency, that will convince me that the laws apply equally. Until then, I will assume that difficult to obtain implies that only Socialists rather than the people may obtain large quantities legally.
That's a stretch. BTW...what's so important to Americans about Venezuelan laws applying equally anyway? Why should we as Americans be so concerned about that? If it's so bad, they can overthrow the guy....or at least try. After all, they voted him in.

And what "large quantities?" How much money was she holding up? I couldn't even see the denominations. Maybe it was a few hundred bucks. What's the big deal about that?
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So, you are agreeing that the wealthy in the USA are socialists?

The rest of us are 'the people'. Is that what you are inferring?


Probably closer to corporate fascists (i.e. Solyndra, GM, GE, Goldman Sachs) but the idea is similar. In Socialism, wealth is obtained based on personal ties to government. In corporate fascism, wealth isn't earned, but rather maintained and grown through the same relationship.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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That's a stretch. BTW...what's so important to Americans about Venezuelan laws applying equally anyway? Why should we as Americans be so concerned about that? If it's so bad, they can overthrow the guy....or at least try. After all, they voted him in.

And what "large quantities?" How much money was she holding up? I couldn't even see the denominations. Maybe it was a few hundred bucks. What's the big deal about that?
None of this constitutes evidence, just subjective conjecture on what "a few hundred bucks" means. Do you know what the annual income in Venezuela happens to be? Do you think an ordinary Venezuelan citizen can obtain, say, a year's salary in US dollars legally?
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Probably closer to corporate fascists (i.e. Solyndra, GM, GE, Goldman Sachs) but the idea is similar. In Socialism, wealth is obtained based on personal ties to government. In corporate fascism, wealth isn't earned, but rather maintained and grown through the same relationship.
Is there something new here or are you just finding this out?
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