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Old 01-27-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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A Latin American girl holding up $25, the outrage, stop the presses!!!! I guess some people are under the impression that dollars are not available in Latin America.
I'm outraged because she looks like she might be attractive and she's covering up the goods with that money.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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Ugh, not this Germany and Sweden discussion. Neither are socialist or even close. We're talking about places like Venezuela, Cuba, etc.

If you don't know much about Venezuela, why even try to defend your position on this topic?
I don't even know what the topic is. Dollars exist in Venezuela, as they do in many Latin American countries. I think the only Latin American county that doesn't accept dollars is Cuba, but that is not the case in Venezuela. You guys seem to have your countries confused.
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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There is nothing illegal about having dollars in Venezuela. You cannot buy dollars through the banks there, but you can (legally) take dollars for goods or services from people who arrive in the country with dollars. Yes, this means that most people would not normally possess dollars, except of course many who work or live near a tourist destination or something like that.

I have read through all of the comments here, and I will say that I agree with detroit,,, that summer appears to be trying to make something out of nothing. I am sure that a number of people who own posadas (bed and breakfast) regularly have a good amount of dollars.

Yes, the elite class in Venezuela is mostly made up of the "old money" which many obtained by selling out their own country to the oil barons from the north during the days of the puppet oppressive governments. These elite still exist there and they are the ones who try to make trouble with Chavez, who by the way was elected by the people in elections that are considered to be more fair and proper than those in the US. Most of the media is still owned by them and they regularly bash
Chavez on the TV and in newspapers (never heard of a "dictator" tolerating that). These elite scum long for the days when they could use the countries resources solely for their own gain and run the poor people off their land just so they could have a mansion.

I wonder why "summer" is so interested in bashing Chavez/Venezuela. Summer apparently knows little about the place but seems intent on running it down,,,,, sounds familiar,,,, like propaganda from a paid shill.
The reason you have to get it at banks is because of Chavez's socialist policies. If the bolivar was allowed to freely trade against the dollar there would be hyperinflation since Venezuela would have a hard time financing their deficits. The value of bolivar would plummet as Venezuelans would (and they do now via the black market) to preserve their savings by buying up all the hard currency. The government would try in vain to prop up the bolivar and in the process depleting its reserves until they vanished. See Mexican Peso crisis for an example.

It's clear neither you or detroit know what you're talking about although you appear to know more than detroit.

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On Wednesday, June 9, Venezuela’s bond market reopened after President Hugo Chávez had shut it down on May 19. Chávez blamed the bolívar’s fall to almost half its previous value on currency speculation in the parallel market for dollar bonds, which he proceeded to suspend until a new market system could be put into place. Newly reopening with a devalued bolívar, the new bond trading market will give the government full control of the exchange rate by requiring that companies buy dollar-denominated bonds rather than conduct direct sales of bolívars for foreign currency. This system follows the trend of Chávez’ leftist recession-fighting policies such as nationalization of industries, controls on prices, and high rates of government spending on social programs. Lauded by some and assailed by others, Chávez’ policies are often seen as indicative of a worldwide trend against the 1990s’ globalization, market economics, and neo-liberalism. The question that now remains to be answered is: what does this new policy portend for Venezuela’s economy?
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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The reason you have to get it at banks is because of Chavez's socialist policies. If the bolivar was allowed to freely trade against the dollar there would be hyperinflation since Venezuela would have a hard time financing their deficits. The value of bolivar would plummet as Venezuelans would (and they do now via the black market) to preserve their savings by buying up all the hard currency. The government would try in vain to prop up the bolivar and in the process depleting its reserves until they vanished. See Mexican Peso crisis for an example.

It's clear neither you or detroit know what you're talking about although you appear to know more than detroit.

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GTHOH....nobody with half a brain in this country is thinking about no damn Venezuela?

The thread is based on some flimsy nonsense about Chavez's daughter holding a few dollars. No more, no less. Don't try to make a dissertation out of this stuff. It aint that complicated.

Beat it dude.
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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I'm interested in Chavez but not due to any political orientation I may have.

He's a rather flamboyant individual in his proclamations about things like us maybe causing his cancer or the Haiti earthquakes so there is that angle.

More importantly though, he's a complex individual who has strong convictions about his worldview and if he has to trample the rights of the people it's ok, because it's for their own good. Is he any worse than the string of corrupt scum before him? No.
You're INTERESTED. That makes sense.

But some of these other people are obsessed with the guy. Yea, i find him mildly interesting, but his existence has no bearing on mine, so i don't pay him any real attention except for what grabs the news headlines. No sense in delving any deeper than that.
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Okay, tell me what is that "fair share" he keeps talking about?
WTH do you think it means?

I need to explain that to you? Really?
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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WTH do you think it means?

I need to explain that to you? Really?

Yes, please, what is exactly the "fair share" Obama is talking about?
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:52 PM
 
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GTHOH....nobody with half a brain in this country is thinking about no damn Venezuela?

The thread is based on some flimsy nonsense about Chavez's daughter holding a few dollars. No more, no less. Don't try to make a dissertation out of this stuff. It aint that complicated.

Beat it dude.
Yup like I said you don't know much about it.

Dollars are significant because it is difficult for Venezuelans to obtain them.
Stick to topics you know.
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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You're INTERESTED. That makes sense.

But some of these other people are obsessed with the guy. Yea, i find him mildly interesting, but his existence has no bearing on mine, so i don't pay him any real attention except for what grabs the news headlines. No sense in delving any deeper than that.
So what's your problem? You've said repeatedly you don't care about the world. Well others of us do. No one is obsessed with him we just like pointing out the contradictions and stupidity of Leftist governments.
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Old 01-27-2012, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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What's the point here?

There are tons of socialist styled nations on this Earth...most have wealthy people living in them. The fact that Chavez has money or is rich is some sort of anomaly?

His daughter is posing with some cash (i can't really see the denominations all that well)....big deal.
soo much for everyone being equel in a socialist nation!!!!
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