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Old 02-02-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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If Georgia announces the defendant is off the ballot because hes not qualified, expect a rush appeal to the SCOTUS. This would force the Court to peek at natural born citizen.

Obama will lose. Let the arrests begin.

 
Old 02-02-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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If Georgia announces the defendant is off the ballot because hes not qualified, expect a rush appeal to the SCOTUS.
Wrong.

SCOTUS would not be the next step in the appeal process.
 
Old 02-02-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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The original argument, one raised by the Clinton supporters, is that a natural born citizen requires both parents to be a citizen. That argument has been hijacked by so many others and twisted.
ok, i'm back. i see that you've already been discussing this in detail with other posters so i just have a few questions so i'm clear on your position.

- do you believe that the argument is about dual-citizenship, 2 US citizen parents or both?
( not all children born to a foreign parent gain dual-citizenship and dual citizenship can be gained after birth to someone born to 2 US citizen parents )

- do you believe "dual-citizenship/2parent" was the original birther argument?

- do you believe that "dual-citizenship/2parent" was the first birther legal challenge?

- do you believe that orly's subpoenas legally obligated those subpoenaed to produce what she requested?
 
Old 02-02-2012, 11:46 AM
 
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The issue is the wording "Natural Born Citizen" and if that means both his parents need to be citizens of the US vs just the one..
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."

- ankeny v daniels.
 
Old 02-02-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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Even granting you this:

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If Georgia announces the defendant is off the ballot because hes not qualified, expect a rush appeal to the SCOTUS. This would force the Court to peek at natural born citizen.

Obama will lose.
What on earth leads you to conclude this:

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Let the arrests begin.
Because up to the (imagined) time that SCOTUS declares "natural-born citizen" to require 2 citizen parents, the definition of NBC was either undetermined, fuzzy, or not requiring 2 citizen parents.

So please tell me which law will have been broken.
 
Old 02-02-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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The defendant's plan all along was avoiding the natural born citizen issue. The defendant was willing to accept the default, he gambled and lost. We presented evidence Obama's not a natural born citizen.

We knew there was no way Obama would come to court to defend he's a natural born citizen. How can he?

Obama will now go full throttle Obot.
 
Old 02-02-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The defendant's plan all along was avoiding the natural born citizen issue. The defendant was willing to accept the default, he gambled and lost. We presented evidence Obama's not a natural born citizen.
Oh? He lost? You got a new crystal ball there somewhere DC?

 
Old 02-02-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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Obama will now go full throttle Obot.
Oh no! Not that!
 
Old 02-02-2012, 12:00 PM
 
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Oh? He lost? You got a new crystal ball there somewhere DC?

"Cause the old crystal ball was cracked????
 
Old 02-02-2012, 12:00 PM
 
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the motion to compel wasn't decided on, prior to the hearing (and no decision by Malihi on that was done). So, no, Jablonski didn't have to show anything because NOTHING required him to do so.
Notice to produce documents are not decided on prior to hearings. They are documents you need to take to the hearing so a decision can be made.

They are rather routine in america, which has me wondering why so many of you guys are uninformed. For example, they are issued to spouses to determine child support payments, forcing spouses to bring the documents to the court hearing so the data can be analized.
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