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Old 01-30-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They got REJECTED under the Bush administration yet approved 1 month later and funded under the stimulus bill.

Don't you all remember those 2009 emails that got released ?
The OMB was being pressured by the administration to HURRY UP and approve because Solyndra was their debut for the "let's go green" campaign and they already had Biden lined up and the press to do a big media event.

My how quick we all forget.

 
Old 01-30-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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They got REJECTED under the Bush administration yet approved 1 month later and funded under the stimulus bill.

Don't you all remember those 2009 emails that got released ?
The OMB was being pressured by the administration to HURRY UP and approve because Solyndra was their debut for the "let's go green" campaign and they already had Biden lined up and the press to do a big media event.

My how quick we all forget.
Save it for a rainy day! how easily some forget, when it is convenient for them too. Yes we remember it was not that long ago. Gees a awful lot of peole with Memory Loss i see!
 
Old 01-30-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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It’s often claimed that the Solyndra loan guarantee was “rushed through” by the Obama Administration for political reasons. In fact, the Solyndra loan guarantee was a multi-year process that the Bush Administration launched in 2007.

No way?!?!? Isn't Solyndra something GOP can't stop ripping Obama about?

Well, if they were honest, they'd be ripping themselves too.


May 2005: Just as a global silicon shortage begins driving up prices of solar photovoltaics [PV], Solyndra is founded to provide a cost-competitive alternative to silicon-based panels.

July 2005: The Bush Administration signs the Energy Policy Act of 2005 into law, creating the 1703 loan guarantee program.

February 2006 – October 2006: In February, Solyndra raises its first round of venture financing worth $10.6 million from CMEA Capital, Redpoint Ventures, and U.S. Venture Partners. In October, Argonaut Venture Capital, an investment arm of George Kaiser, invests $17 million into Solyndra. Madrone Capital Partners, an investment arm of the Walton family, invests $7 million. Those investments are part of a $78.2 million fund.

December 2006: Solyndra Applies for a Loan Guarantee under the 1703 program.

Late 2007: Loan guarantee program is funded. Solyndra was one of 16 clean-tech companies deemed ready to move forward in the due diligence process. The Bush Administration DOE moves forward to develop a conditional commitment.

October 2008: Then Solyndra CEO Chris Gronet touted reasons for building in Silicon Valley and noted that the “company’s second factory also will be built in Fremont, since a Department of Energy loan guarantee mandates a U.S. location.”

November 2008: Silicon prices remain very high on the spot market, making non-silicon based thin film technologies like Solyndra’s very attractive to investors. Solyndra also benefits from having very low installation costs. The company raises $144 million from ten different venture investors, including the Walton-family run Madrone Capital Partners. This brings total private investment to more than $450 million to date.

January 2009: In an effort to show it has done something to support renewable energy, the Bush Administration tries to take Solyndra before a DOE credit review committee before President Obama is inaugurated. The committee, consisting of career civil servants with financial expertise, remands the loan back to DOE “without prejudice” because it wasn’t ready for conditional commitment.

March 2009: The same credit committee approves the strengthened loan application. The deal passes on to DOE’s credit review board. Career staff (not political appointees) within the DOE issue a conditional commitment setting out terms for a guarantee.

June 2009: As more silicon production facilities come online while demand for PV wavers due to the economic slowdown, silicon prices start to drop. Meanwhile, the Chinese begin rapidly scaling domestic manufacturing and set a path toward dramatic, unforeseen cost reductions in PV. Between June of 2009 and August of 2011, PV prices drop more than 50%.

September 2009: Solyndra raises an additional $219 million. Shortly after, the DOE closes a $535 million loan guarantee after six months of due diligence. This is the first loan guarantee issued under the 1703 program. From application to closing, the process took three years – not the 41 days that is sometimes reported. OMB did raise some concerns in August not about the loan itself but how the loan should be “scored.” OMB testified Wednesday that they were comfortable with the final scoring.

January – June 2010: As the price of conventional silicon-based PV continues to fall due to low silicon prices and a glut of solar modules, investors and analysts start questioning Solyndra’s ability to compete in the marketplace. Despite pulling its IPO (as dozens of companies did in 2010), Solyndra raises an additional $175 million from investors.

November 2010: Solyndra closes an older manufacturing facility and concentrates operations at Fab 2, the plant funded by the $535 million loan guarantee. The Fab 2 plant is completed that same month — on time and on budget — employing around 3,000 construction workers during the build-out, just as the DOE projected.

February 2011: Due to a liquidity crisis, investors provide $75 million to help restructure the loan guarantee. The DOE rightly assumed it was better to give Solyndra a fighting chance rather than liquidate the company – which was a going concern – for market value, which would have guaranteed significant losses.

March 2011: Republican Representatives complain that DOE funds are not being spent quickly enough.
House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI): “despite the Administration’s urgency and haste to pass the bill [the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act] … billions of dollars have yet to be spent.”
And House Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee Chairman Cliff Stearns (R-FL): “The whole point of the Democrat’s stimulus bill was to spend billions of dollars … most of the money still hasn’t been spent.”

June 2011: Average selling prices for solar modules drop to $1.50 a watt and continue on a pathway to $1 a watt. Solyndra says it has cut costs by 50%, but analysts worry how the company will compete with the dramatic changes in conventional PV.

August 2011: DOE refuses to restructure the loan a second time.

September 2011: Solyndra closes its manufacturing facility, lays off 1,100 workers and files for bankruptcy. The news is touted as a failure of the Obama Administration and the loan guarantee office. However, as of September 12, the DOE loan programs office closed or issued conditional commitments of $37.8 billion to projects around the country. The $535 million loan is only 1.3% of DOE’s loan portfolio. To date, Solyndra is the only loan that’s known to be troubled.
Rubbish. Solyndra was turned down public monies by the bush administration two weeks before mr obama took office. In point of fact none of your links indicate any public monies did make it to solyndra before me obama took office. Just when are american liberals gonna' realize mr bush cannot be held responsible for all of mr obama's mistakes. This is just getting past pathetic.
 
Old 01-30-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Just when are american liberals gonna' realize mr bush cannot be held responsible for all of mr obama's mistakes. This is just getting past pathetic.
I know the whole topic of Bush is a sore spot for many who voted him in, and they feel compelled to defend him no matter what. The truth is that when you defend projects like Bush's Loan Guarantee Programs for Green-Tech, or bank/auto bailouts and nationalization sprees, you think you are defending a person, but you are really defending socialism.
 
Old 01-30-2012, 02:16 PM
 
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Back to this yet again?? You blamed Bush and struck out. Now go take your seat in the dugout. Don't worry another batter swinging from the left side will head to the plate to take his/her swings next. The quest to blame bush for everything will not stop!!!
 
Old 01-30-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Since Obama claimed Solyhdra such as beaming example of success under his administration, yes he can be blamed and branded a fool. Regardless of who started the mess, he helped to prolong it,

Try being a little non-partisan.

Funny, I thinking that about you.

If something that was already in motion and appears to be doing well, why would'nt you say that it was a success? His only failure is not checking out the facts before hand
 
Old 01-30-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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As an independent I don't have a party to defend. Placing the blame on both presidents, where is belongs, is being non-partisan. It turns out Bush did his best to push it through the last month of his presidency, but was not able to do it because the committee wasn't ready.
I'm an independent too!!
 
Old 01-30-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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No one argues Bush created Solyndra. He created the leftist money re-distribution program to fund green tech companies like Solyndra. Do you support support such programs?
Lol, at least you finally admit you OP was a lie!
 
Old 01-30-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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Great now the 1% folks get to drive in the luxury fast lanes. Just another thing for the OWS and class warfare folks to howl about. lol
Wait, have you thought about who is funding the creation of the road? Clearly the 1% is doing so because people on welfare cant build multi billion dollar roads.. And Finn is celebrating the rich getting richer...

Cant keep his own argument straight anymore without me laughing my head off..
 
Old 01-30-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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Save it for a rainy day! how easily some forget, when it is convenient for them too. Yes we remember it was not that long ago. Gees a awful lot of peole with Memory Loss i see!
Obama keeps reminding us of his failures in wasting our taxpayer money on his crony venture capitalism, so how we can we possibly forget?

Electric-Car Firm That Received Biden Visit and $118M in Stimulus Funds Files for Bankruptcy | CNSnews.com

Some 200 laid off at North Las Vegas Amonix solar plant - Las Vegas Sun

Stimulus Recipient Evergreen Goes Bust

Yet Another Green Energy Stimulus Recipient Hits the Skids (the third this week!)

Even with all these, and many more, green energy companies going broke or belly up, Obama keeps tossing more money down the rat hole; now he is doubling down on his failures:

Obama's 'double-down' support gives a push to renewable energy | www.ecocenter.org
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