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Old 01-30-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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At least he's not wasting his time sexting/texting every freaking second of the day.

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Mircea

I didn't see anything in that article that implied that, one way or the other.
All I did get out of the piece is that the tight living conditions didn't bother them much when they were younger and more optimistic but they do do now.
Perhaps the point of the artile is that they didn't get as far as they thought they might have in achieving the 'American Dream'
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Old 01-30-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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You don't have to be exceptionally smart to succeed in school. Just willing to work hard at it.

Many immigrants aren't any smarter than native-born Americans. Coming from a life of great poverty makes them grateful for what they have so when they get an opportunity to move up in life they don't take it for granted - unlike many native born youth who may have never known poverty in their life.
You're right, they work harder. They tested a group of Asians and American born for gifted capabilities and found that America actually had more. The difference is simply work ethic, that is why more Asians graduate from top U.S. colleges than American. It's just hard work plain and simple!
If you came home with less than an A to an Asian household you would not get away with it. You'd be working a lot harder after that believe me.
Good for them and anyone like them!
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:51 AM
 
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The difference is simply work ethic, that is why more Asians graduate from top U.S. colleges than American. It's just hard work plain and simple!
If you came home with less than an A to an Asian household you would not get away with it. You'd be working a lot harder after that believe me.
Good for them and anyone like them!
Absolutely. Many Americans think you're either born with talent or you're not. They refuse to work hard because they don't think it will pay off. Most Chinese and Japanese simply don't believe that. They think you can work hard and persevere through virtually anything. Most immigrants also have that mindset which is why so many of us do well wherever we go.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:02 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Thats about 1/3rd the size of my bedroom which is 900 SF.
That's a big-arse bedroom! I grew up in a 6000sf home, so it's not like I've never been exposed to comfortable/spacious living. But dang. These days I live alone in a 710sf apartment, which is plenty of space for me... just a little crowded with my animals, which include a 40lb dog, 3 cats, 29 snakes, and a cage full of feeder rats. And a partridge in a pear tree, LOL.

As for the OP, of course the "American Dream" is possible if you have the brains and/or drive. My father came from a poor background, and worked his way to success with no assistance other than academic scholarships. Those with an average level of intelligence, talent, drive, etc, might not reach the highest level of achievements... but they can at least make themselves a comfortable life, and I don't fault them for using available sources (of assistance) along the way.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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My point is to show that despite the odds of you try hard you can succeed.

Last week I posted a story about a black mother who hauled her family from Kansas City to NYC so her kids could be rappers. They immediately were given a free apt and $800 in food stamps. Three of her 4 kids are adults and only one has a part time job. During the summer they blasted the AC and ran up a 500 ConEd bill. A charity paid.

I think these two stories show that the issues are not poverty but culture. One group works hard and stress education as a way to improve their lot. The other demands free stuff and lived for the moment.

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I thought the same thing and also wondered the same as below:



I think they are just a regular family. That is why this is a human interest story, it's purpose was just to show the glimpse of the lives of someone else, to show we are all the same.

I don't get where the OP is coming from in regards to the "American Dream" plenty of people grew up poor or in poverty and become successful or at least attain a middle class income. I was the same as a child.

I also don't see what the mom now working has to do with anything either. Most mom's work now a days.

Just don't understand the pupose of the post actually. If it is just to show that all of us humans share more common values than not, then that would be okay, but it seems like the post was meant to divide or show that this family is better than another and I just don't get that from the piece.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:41 AM
 
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Sorry i'm not sure the point of the article. Are we suppose to be impressed or feel bad for this family?

They chose to live in NYC and in these conditions. The father can pack up the family and move to North Dakota today and get a job at Mcdonalds paying $20 an hour with a $300 dollar signing bonus.
Most likely they went to NYC as there is a large Chinese community in NYC that they can be part of and may have helped them when they arrived in the USA. Is there any Chinese community in North Dakota that could help them get started there?
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:49 AM
 
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Twice as many people per capita commit suicide in China compared to the US.

Just saying..

List of countries by suicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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