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Old 01-31-2012, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Phantasy Tokoro View Post
Liberal here. Let me see if I can clarify any points.



Truth is rarely set in stone.



That's a human trait, not a liberal one.



This is absolutely true, and is idiotic to argue otherwise.

A religion that preaches ultimate peace is much better than a religion that preaches to rape everything in sight.

And no, I'm not referencing Christianity and Islam here.



Wrong is subjective, not truth. Destructive would need to be proved in order to be a fact.



Morality is relative, not fact. Again, a subjective point.



There are some who disagree with is ideas, but it's undeniable that there are some that disagree with him simply because of his race.




Because without proper backing, a few of those ARE wrong.



It depends on your hypothetical reasoning, as most arguments against homosexuality and homosexual families stem from ignorance and not fact.



People are rarely openminded. Liberals who profess open-mindedness are most likely the least open-minded.

I'm liberal, and I'm set in my beliefs. If this makes me closed-minded, then so be it. I will not be tolerant of intolerance.



It all depends on how it's applied.
You seem level-headed. At least you appear to be open to arguments against your views. I have no problem with this sort of liberalism.

I take problem with your claim that truth is rarely set in stone. And your claim that morality is relative. Why do you believe this? Also, what does it mean to not tolerate intolerance? That's intolerant lol jk

 
Old 01-31-2012, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Most conservatives support medicare and SS. That stopped being a liberal vs conservative issue years ago.

Let me ask again... What evidence could make you decide homosexuals harm society?
"Possibly" socio-biological studies and things of the sort. Liberals like to shut down the possibility of their pet views being wrong. I am not actually attacking homosexuality, just suggesting that they open their minds to "possibly" being wrong about their pet views. I'm sure there are reason-based arguments against just like arguments for pet views. Conservatives aren't always being hateful when they oppose homosexuality, some genuinely have reasons.
 
Old 02-01-2012, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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[quote=hawkeye2009;22793464]Right-

Typical liberal banter

1. liberals want to restrict gun ownership
2. liberals want to restrict free speech. "political correctness" is designed to intimidate and limit the ability of opposition groups to formulate opinions against the government. Liberals often "shout down" and speakers they disagree with and prevent them from adressing an audience, even in university settings where they are invited guest speakers. Further, liberals promote a "fairness doctrine" in the media, in which conservative radio is limited, even though liberals control nearly all of television and newspapers.
3. Liberals oppose a national right to work act
4. Liberals promote more and more confiscation of personal assets and wealth through taxation and redistribution to others who did not earn it.
5. Liberals promote more and more regulations to limit the ability of buisness
6. Liberals promote more and more regulations through the EPA to prevent the expansion of private industry to expand US energy development and refining.
7. Liberals promote "quotas" which offer unfair preferential treatment to certain classes, simply based on race or gender.
8. Liberals promote violation of federal election laws and fraud, as long as it benefits the democratic party.
9. Liberals embrace auto mileage levels which prevent people from driving cars they would prefer.
10. Liberals prevent prayer in schools
11. Liberals prevent the observation of Christmas by those who want to do so in public places
12. Liberals promote mandates for citizens to purchase things they do not want(Obamacare).
13. Liberals force radical agenda teaching on all children, regardless of parental wishes, in public schools (gay agenda).


At least liberals don't inbreed and produce offspring like Conservatives.
 
Old 02-01-2012, 06:30 AM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
Right-

Typical liberal banter

1. liberals want to restrict gun ownership
2. liberals want to restrict free speech. "political correctness" is designed to intimidate and limit the ability of opposition groups to formulate opinions against the government. Liberals often "shout down" and speakers they disagree with and prevent them from adressing an audience, even in university settings where they are invited guest speakers. Further, liberals promote a "fairness doctrine" in the media, in which conservative radio is limited, even though liberals control nearly all of television and newspapers.
3. Liberals oppose a national right to work act
4. Liberals promote more and more confiscation of personal assets and wealth through taxation and redistribution to others who did not earn it.
5. Liberals promote more and more regulations to limit the ability of buisness
6. Liberals promote more and more regulations through the EPA to prevent the expansion of private industry to expand US energy development and refining.
7. Liberals promote "quotas" which offer unfair preferential treatment to certain classes, simply based on race or gender.
8. Liberals promote violation of federal election laws and fraud, as long as it benefits the democratic party.
9. Liberals embrace auto mileage levels which prevent people from driving cars they would prefer.
10. Liberals prevent prayer in schools
11. Liberals prevent the observation of Christmas by those who want to do so in public places
12. Liberals promote mandates for citizens to purchase things they do not want(Obamacare).
13. Liberals force radical agenda teaching on all children, regardless of parental wishes, in public schools (gay agenda).


At least liberals don't inbreed and produce offspring like Conservatives.

Wow. That was an intelligent and insightful response. When liberals are faced with the realities of thier beliefs, it makes them uncomfortable, with the realization that they are more interested in suppressing liberty, than promoting it. The above examples are all true, and the only response a liberal can make is an inane retort. Wake up- you have been played.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
 
Old 02-01-2012, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I take problem with your claim that truth is rarely set in stone. And your claim that morality is relative. Why do you believe this?
Truth goes with whatever's popular or whoever writes the history books.

It used to be truth that witches caused sickness, or that to go against God is to be shunned or put to death.

Relative morality is easier to prove.

Many think it's immoral to have gay sex. Many don't think it's immoral to have gay sex.

Hence, relative morality.

There are parts of morality that AREN'T relative, such as "don't murder or steal", but parts of morality that shift from person to person.

These morals typically have more to do with how you formed your opinions of the world while you grew up, be it through religion, parents, or just forming your own opinions. That's why we have the arguments on homosexuality, abortion, sexual freedom, etc. Because while some believe those to be immoral, others disagree.
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:10 AM
 
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[quote=NYer75;22796635]
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
Right-

Typical liberal banter

1. liberals want to restrict gun ownership
2. liberals want to restrict free speech. "political correctness" is designed to intimidate and limit the ability of opposition groups to formulate opinions against the government. Liberals often "shout down" and speakers they disagree with and prevent them from adressing an audience, even in university settings where they are invited guest speakers. Further, liberals promote a "fairness doctrine" in the media, in which conservative radio is limited, even though liberals control nearly all of television and newspapers.
3. Liberals oppose a national right to work act
4. Liberals promote more and more confiscation of personal assets and wealth through taxation and redistribution to others who did not earn it.
5. Liberals promote more and more regulations to limit the ability of buisness
6. Liberals promote more and more regulations through the EPA to prevent the expansion of private industry to expand US energy development and refining.
7. Liberals promote "quotas" which offer unfair preferential treatment to certain classes, simply based on race or gender.
8. Liberals promote violation of federal election laws and fraud, as long as it benefits the democratic party.
9. Liberals embrace auto mileage levels which prevent people from driving cars they would prefer.
10. Liberals prevent prayer in schools
11. Liberals prevent the observation of Christmas by those who want to do so in public places
12. Liberals promote mandates for citizens to purchase things they do not want(Obamacare).
13. Liberals force radical agenda teaching on all children, regardless of parental wishes, in public schools (gay agenda).


At least liberals don't inbreed and produce offspring like Conservatives.
We see, as a Liberal all you could say about the post was a cheap shot. Would've been nice if you could've disputed it. Looks like it's all true!!

By the way, Liberals are going after other's children, have you noticed, what would that be called??
 
Old 02-01-2012, 08:21 AM
 
59,059 posts, read 27,306,837 times
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[quote=NYer75;22796635]
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
Right-

Typical liberal banter

1. liberals want to restrict gun ownership
2. liberals want to restrict free speech. "political correctness" is designed to intimidate and limit the ability of opposition groups to formulate opinions against the government. Liberals often "shout down" and speakers they disagree with and prevent them from adressing an audience, even in university settings where they are invited guest speakers. Further, liberals promote a "fairness doctrine" in the media, in which conservative radio is limited, even though liberals control nearly all of television and newspapers.
3. Liberals oppose a national right to work act
4. Liberals promote more and more confiscation of personal assets and wealth through taxation and redistribution to others who did not earn it.
5. Liberals promote more and more regulations to limit the ability of buisness
6. Liberals promote more and more regulations through the EPA to prevent the expansion of private industry to expand US energy development and refining.
7. Liberals promote "quotas" which offer unfair preferential treatment to certain classes, simply based on race or gender.
8. Liberals promote violation of federal election laws and fraud, as long as it benefits the democratic party.
9. Liberals embrace auto mileage levels which prevent people from driving cars they would prefer.
10. Liberals prevent prayer in schools
11. Liberals prevent the observation of Christmas by those who want to do so in public places
12. Liberals promote mandates for citizens to purchase things they do not want(Obamacare).
13. Liberals force radical agenda teaching on all children, regardless of parental wishes, in public schools (gay agenda).


At least liberals don't inbreed and produce offspring like Conservatives.
Read these post throughout C-D and you will see a constant behavior from liberals. "If you don't believe as I do you are an idiot, moron, inbred, stupid, or any other insulting term their feeble minds can come up with.
 
Old 02-01-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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[quote=3~Shepherds;22798200]
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Originally Posted by NYer75 View Post
We see, as a Liberal all you could say about the post was a cheap shot. Would've been nice if you could've disputed it. Looks like it's all true!!

By the way, Liberals are going after other's children, have you noticed, what would that be called??
Um, what?
 
Old 02-01-2012, 10:09 AM
 
17,468 posts, read 12,937,957 times
Reputation: 6764
[quote=kshe95girl;22799903]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3~Shepherds View Post
Um, what?
You, who are on the road must have a code that you can live by.
And so become yourself because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well, their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they picked, the one you're known by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.

And you, of the tender years can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your years, they seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well, their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they picked, the one you're known by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
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