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So you are good with false claims because the government ok's/mandates them?
I'm comfortable with the word "estimate" and the definition that comes with it.
No person in their right mind actually believes MPG charts. It's a good starting point, but it should never be the end-all, be-all of car buying decisions.
This woman was stupid. In this case, I don't blame Honda or the government.
"Honda's proposed class-action settlement would give aggrieved owners $100 to $200 each and a $1,000 credit toward the purchase of a new car. Legal fees in the class action case would give trial lawyers $8.5 million, Peters said"
It's pretty obvious Honda was falsifying information to gain sales, and they have every right to be sued.
Show me where the information was intentionally falsified.
I'm comfortable with the word "estimate" and the definition that comes with it.
No person in their right mind actually believes MPG charts. It's a good starting point, but it should never be the end-all, be-all of car buying decisions.
This woman was stupid. In this case, I don't blame Honda or the government.
I think you are confusing the term "estimate" with unattainable.
I think you are confusing the term "estimate" with unattainable.
I, for one, have never relied on the big bold MPG number plastered on window stickers. It has never once entered into my conciousness that "this is the reason I should buy this vehicle." I understand exactly where you're coming from.....its all a farce. I agree. But at some point you have to move from reliance on Big Government to help you make your purchasing decision and into performance of your own due diligence. There are many ways to determine if a car fits your needs and requirements. Big, fancy stickers with government "estimates" should not be the main basis for that determination. Had she taken a competent car buyer with her, she likely could have been explained how faulty those MPG ratings really are, no matter what the salesperson told her.
I, for one, have never relied on the big bold MPG number plastered on window stickers. It has never once entered into my conciousness that "this is the reason I should buy this vehicle." I understand exactly where you're coming from.....its all a farce. I agree. But at some point you have to move from reliance on Big Government to help you make your purchasing decision and into performance of your own due diligence. There are many ways to determine if a car fits your needs and requirements. Big, fancy stickers with government "estimates" should not be the main basis for that determination. Had she taken a competent car buyer with her, she likely could have been explained how faulty those MPG ratings really are, no matter what the salesperson told her.
But she didn't. She's the idiot here.
So its okay to hoodwink, lie and mislead the public so long as the federal government signs off on it?
So its okay to hoodwink, lie and mislead the public so long as the federal government signs off on it?
technically it is not misleading the public if they are using government generated numbers. if the government estimates fuel economy at 45mpg, its because they have actually tested the vehicle, granted they did it on a dyno rather than in the real world.
the difference is if the government says 45mpg, but you claim that the car gets more than that, then you have a problem.
So its okay to hoodwink, lie and mislead the public so long as the federal government signs off on it?
Personally, I think it goes way deeper than just the government signing off on it. I believe this case is more to do with the fact that the woman in question is:
1) A greedy, litigious lawyer. Finding fault and remedy is her trained profession. She felt wronged. Her mentality wouldn't let her do anything other than sue.
2) She's from California. Being ridiculous is a requirement.
3) She's most likely a Liberal. Her ideology doesn't permit her to find fault with the government. Her ideology forces her to find fault with big corporations.
4) She's very easily duped. Her Green Ideology doesn't bend or sway. Either it's green, or it's not. Either it gets 50 MPG, or it doesn't.
A strong case could be made that the MPG numbers are not attainable, as you mention, but the fault lies directly with this woman for being the ignorant person that she is.
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