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Old 02-06-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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U.K.: "Shoebomb" jihadist to be released hours before opening ceremony for Olympics

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The 32-year-old was jailed for 13 years in 2005 after conspiring with two other radical Muslims to blow up a passenger jet - but he will be released after serving just eight years and eight months.
And yet we are still required to take off our shoes as part of security theatre. The terrorists continue to laugh at us. The time he has spent in prison is a tiny fraction of the time Americans have had to waste taking off their shoes at airports since the failed shoebomb attacks.
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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You want people to be jailed indefinitely?
Where do you think you are? The US?
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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You want people to be jailed indefinitely?
Where do you think you are? The US?
So, what's the going rate for attempted mass murder in your mind?
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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So, what's the going rate for attempted mass murder in your mind?
Did he serve the time given to him by the courts?
I believe he did.

Are you for holding people indefinitely when that's not their court sentence?
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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Did he serve the time given to him by the courts?
I believe he did.

Are you for holding people indefinitely when that's not their court sentence?
Now look who is twisting peoples words.

I believe most of us here were questioning the length of the sentence, not asking for additional detention without charge.

I cannot believe you feel he should be executed.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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If you aren't British, its none of your business.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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Now look who is twisting peoples words.

I believe most of us here were questioning the length of the sentence, not asking for additional detention without charge.

I cannot believe you feel he should be executed.
You asked what I thought was appropriate.
I stated that he completed his sentence.

You and others are saying that he shouldn't be freed.
Are you denying that's your premise?
If not, what point that I made are you arguing?
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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Sorry if I offended you. I just wanted to point out that you question was dishonest.
My question is not dishonest.
Or maybe you never heard of Gitmo.

And the point that purposely changing poster's words is against the TOS stands.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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You asked what I thought was appropriate.
I stated that he completed his sentence.

You and others are saying that he shouldn't be freed.Are you denying that's your premise?
If not, what point that I made are you arguing?
Where did I say he shouldn't be freed? Come on, point it out....

You've been dishonestly misrepresenting my opinion repeatedly in this thread...starting with post #9 where I was asking about what the going rate (ie. sentence) should be for attempted mass murder....which you claimed was my demanding for indefinite detention.

Seems to me that in a civil discourse one should be able to question the length of sentence for attempted mass murder to be inadequate at less than 9 years served.

P.S. England and much of the modern world does allow for indefinite detention in some cases, but they are rare and generally linked to mental illness.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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You want people to be jailed indefinitely?
Where do you think you are? The US?
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U.K.: "Shoebomb" jihadist to be released hours before opening ceremony for Olympics



And yet we are still required to take off our shoes as part of security theatre. The terrorists continue to laugh at us. The time he has spent in prison is a tiny fraction of the time Americans have had to waste taking off their shoes at airports since the failed shoebomb attacks.
13 years is weak...not serving the entire sentence is even weaker.
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