What would you do with this kid? (states, permit, murder)
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You're likely right; sociopaths are so narcissistic that they perceive any change within themselves as death of the self, and resist it at all costs. I would still agree with ChocLot in that she needs to be in a psychiatric setting for life. What she did at 15 was horrific, but she was still far too young and ill to be held responsible and liable for a death sentence. As LML said, there are potential victims if she's freed, and those victims could be other inmates if she's incarcerated. Clearly she needs a regulated environment and medications. My heart goes out to the 9 year-old victim, her family and friends.
You're likely right; sociopaths are so narcissistic that they perceive any change within themselves as death of the self, and resist it at all costs. I would still agree with ChocLot in that she needs to be in a psychiatric setting for life. What she did at 15 was horrific, but she was still far too young and ill to be held responsible and liable for a death sentence. As LML said, there are potential victims if she's freed, and those victims could be other inmates if she's incarcerated. Clearly she needs a regulated environment and medications. My heart goes out to the 9 year-old victim, her family and friends.
This sorry excuse for a human girl is a psychopath, not a sociopath. It was a horrific crime, no sense of remorse, it was premeditated and there was every indication that the crime it was rehearsed prior.
Evil exists in this world and this is one example of its appearance. Fifteen is not too young to be held accountable for cold blooded murder. Sorry if that offends anyone's sensibilities. A life sentence for the criminally insane, no chance for parole, IMO. YMMV
IIRC teens as young as 15 have been tried as adults before. However, I don't believe any in Missouri have been girls, yet (not that it should make a difference).
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She wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone, now she can find out what it feels like to spend the rest of her life behind bars with no chance of getting out...
Alright, I am a "bleeding heart liberal" although I have never understood why being labeled "compassionate" was an insult.
The rational part of me wants to say that a 15-year old is a minor and thus, should be treated as such. If we want to bestow the mental maturity on minors that would suggest that they are fully capable of understanding their actions, then we might as well set a new age at which a person is legally considered an adult. You can't be considered to be an adult only some of the time.
That rational part of me also wants to argue that this girl can and should be rehabilitated - if possible.
The compassionate part of me wants to say that this girl needs to get life in prison. Such a sentence would be compassionate in regards to the parents of the victim - since the girl would be locked up for the rest of her life; and it would also be compassionate in regards to a, then, 15-year old girl by sparing her life.
As the parent of a little girl myself (and imagining what her actions would have done to me and my family), I just want to put a gun to her head and pull the trigger. Better yet, make it a slow and painful death - let's see if death is still enjoyable. Alas, that's the emotional part of me - the part that fully embraces the idea of vengeance.
She was 15 when she committed the crime. Do you all really think someone should be eligible for the death penalty for something they did when they were 15?
If they're as psycho as this kid...yes.
About two decades ago here in New York, there was a kid by the name of Willie Bosket. He hadn't even reached 15 at the time--used to walk up to people and shoot them in the back of the head at point-blank range. Said it was a lot of fun.
New York State had to amend its death penalty law on account of this monster, so that now, if you commit an adult crime, you can be tried and convicted as an adult.
About two decades ago here in New York, there was a kid by the name of Willie Bosket. He hadn't even reached 15 at the time--used to walk up to people and shoot them in the back of the head at point-blank range. Said it was a lot of fun.
New York State had to amend its death penalty law on account of this monster, so that now, if you commit an adult crime, you can be tried and convicted as an adult.
New York State doesn't have the death penalty at all.
Anyway - I NEVER said this girl shouldn't be tried as an adult. I think she should be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. I just don't think someone should be sentenced to death for something they did at 15.
The Supreme Court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional for people who were under the age of 16 when they committed their crime about twenty years ago and expanded that to anyone who was under 18 when they committed their crime more recently.
Even Texas - which executes far more murderers than any other state - had a minimum age of 17 to be eligible for the death penalty before the SCOTUS ruling required it to be raised to 18.
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I think she should be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. I just don't think someone should be sentenced to death for something they did at 15.
The Supreme Court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional for people who were under the age of 16 when they committed their crime about twenty years ago and expanded that to anyone who was under 18 when they committed their crime more recently.
She was 15 when she committed the crime. Do you all really think someone should be eligible for the death penalty for something they did when they were 15?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by MrClose
That would depend on whether you're a bleeding heart lib or not!
Then again .. Even a liberal would probably say 'yes' IF it were one of 'their' children .. IF it were anyone else's .. not so much!
I'm a liberal. You sound like an idiot. Stop talking.
Mental institution, until they are not a threat to society, or they die, whichever comes first.
Agreed.
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