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Old 02-08-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Just curious, why would it matter, I mean if the people working for a religous organization have learned their lesson so well then no one will use them, right?
Well...

I think that this guy nails it:

"Maybe Obama's mistake wasn't telling Catholics to do something they can't do. It was calling attention to the fact that they already are."

Danny Westneat | Little late for birth-control debate | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Half of voters called by Rasmussen disagree with the action taken by HHS to require churches that sponsor hospitals to provide these goodies to all employees in their insurance coverage. 39% of voters agreed with the action and 10% had no opinion.

Read the questions provided that were asked. There are some really interesting outcomes to four other questions, but all of them go along with the numbers here as far as direction is concerned so many wouldn't want to see them.


50% Oppose Gov't Mandate for Religious Organizations to Provide Contraceptives - Rasmussen Reports™
Wow, half of Repubs agree with HHS. Oooops, only 39%
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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Of course they do and it will be even higher as they become educated that this issue is not just about birth control or Catholicism. It is about a line being crossed with regard to our freedom. The reason our country was founded was for Religious Freedom; to get away from a ChurchState, which is where we are headed.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Of course they do and it will be even higher as they become educated that this issue is not just about birth control or Catholicism. It is about a line being crossed with regard to our freedom. The reason our country was founded was for Religious Freedom; to get away from a ChurchState, which is where we are headed.
Stop running your religon like a business and making Millions in profits and you will not have to foot any bill because you will not have any Employees. See how simple it is, or would you prefer to just continue to whine? Let me guess, you pick more whining
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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They are employing heathens, my my, guess they have a problem then eh
I am sure lots of companies don't like footing the bill for certain items, heck some would not any bill if they did not have to. Religious organizations are operating as businesses and as such must follow the same rules as any other business, and that is that.
Private organizations get a lot of leeway in obeying the law in this country, but as soon as you start taking taxpayer money or employing people who do not believe what you do, even if they are actual Catholics, but using birth control, then the organization must conform to the law.

Heck, that's not even totally true because I don't think it is legal for a Muslim family to stone a daughter who will not marry her chosen husband by her family.

This is a weak Catholic attempt at creating an issue where there should be none, in the hopes that the troops will rally around the pope again. I think it is an attempt to regain some of their lost membership. They have lost so much with their coverups and acceptance of pedophiles. This is a non issue. They must obey the law like everyone else. Catholics are using birth control these days, so who's kidding who?
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Private organizations get a lot of leeway in obeying the law in this country, but as soon as you start taking taxpayer money or employing people who do not believe what you do, even if they are actual Catholics, but using birth control, then the organization must conform to the law.

Heck, that's not even totally true because I don't think it is legal for a Muslim family to stone a daughter who will not marry her chosen husband by her family.

Catholics are great at creating issues in the hopes that the troops will rally around the cross again. They have lost so much with their coverups and acceptance of pedophiles. This is a non issue. They must obey the law like everyone else. Catholics are using birth control these days, who's kidding who?
True, FYI, I was raised a Catholic
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: North America
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Half of voters called by Rasmussen disagree with the action taken by HHS to require churches that sponsor hospitals to provide these goodies to all employees in their insurance coverage. 39% of voters agreed with the action and 10% had no opinion.

Read the questions provided that were asked. There are some really interesting outcomes to four other questions, but all of them go along with the numbers here as far as direction is concerned so many wouldn't want to see them.


50% Oppose Gov't Mandate for Religious Organizations to Provide Contraceptives - Rasmussen Reports™
Imagine that....rasmussen finding in favor of a conservative stance in a poll.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm guessing most of those don't fully understand the issue anyway. They hear "government forcing religious people to..." and just react.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The source is the heavily right wing biased rasmussen, what did you expect?
Of course you read the link and the questions I suggested just as you always don't. Right?
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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They Love Ras when it says what they want to hear and discount it when it doesn't, see how easy it is
As one of the they you mentioned, I have posted some that you would approve of. Of course, you read the report by that ugly Rasmussen bunch, didn't you?
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