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Old 02-11-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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I don't recall reading any post that said the opinions of those that did not serve is less valid than those that did.

The point is, those that served in the military have more of of an interest or are more concerned than their civilian counterparts about issues pertaining to military; such as the naming of military ships, planes, tanks and aircraft . Which is no different than doctors, lawyers or politicians having more of an interest in topics or issues relevant to their professions than military personnel.

And, BTW... based upon your responses, I doubt very seriously if you ever served in the military.
Good. I don't go around making it known that i'm a veteran since it not only DOESN'T define me, but it was a small part of my life. Moreover, being a vet doesn't make me special. I've done much more than just be in the Army. So if my responses don't strike you as coming from a veteran, i'll take that as a compliment. I'm not speaking as a vet. I'm speaking as a citizen.

Furthermore, non veterans have to pay for ships just like everyone else. It doesn't matter anymore what servicemembers think than anyone else. You can name a ship after anything you want. This stuff is pretty trivial as far as i'm concerned.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:08 PM
 
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This whole post makes not one bit of sense. It's incoherent, childish, picayune, and silly.
If that is your opinion, why do you continue to take part in the discussion?
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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She's a victim, not a hero. I feel for her having been attacked, but...
In the mind of the new wave progs being a victim makes one a hero.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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She was a small minded war monger, I find the naming apropos.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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I served 20+ years in the Navy. My understanding of Naval history is ships are named after previous ships which distinguished themselves in service; names recommended by individuals and groups; and names of naval leaders, national figures, and deceased members of the Navy and Marine Corps who have been honored for heroism in war or for extraordinary achievement in peace.

Early in the 20th century, ships were named in accordance with a system. Battleships were named for states. Cruisers were named for cities while destroyers came to be named for American naval leaders and heroes, as today's destroyers are still named. In early 30's submarines were named for fish. Mass-produced antisubmarine patrol and escort ships were named in honor of members of the naval service killed in action in World War II. Some were named for destroyers lost in the early stages of that war. Ships lost in wartime were normally honored by having their names reassigned to new construction. During World War II the names of individuals were once again assigned to aircraft carriers.

Thanks to our current administration, anything can happen. Hey if Obama could win the Nobel Peace Prize for something he never did, anything can happen. I just feel it is an insult to those men and women who truly deserve the honor.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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I served 20+ years in the Navy. My understanding of Naval history is ships are named after previous ships which distinguished themselves in service; names recommended by individuals and groups; and names of naval leaders, national figures, and deceased members of the Navy and Marine Corps who have been honored for heroism in war or for extraordinary achievement in peace.

Early in the 20th century, ships were named in accordance with a system. Battleships were named for states. Cruisers were named for cities while destroyers came to be named for American naval leaders and heroes, as today's destroyers are still named. In early 30's submarines were named for fish. Mass-produced antisubmarine patrol and escort ships were named in honor of members of the naval service killed in action in World War II. Some were named for destroyers lost in the early stages of that war. Ships lost in wartime were normally honored by having their names reassigned to new construction. During World War II the names of individuals were once again assigned to aircraft carriers.

Thanks to our current administration, anything can happen. Hey if Obama could win the Nobel Peace Prize for something he never did, anything can happen. I just feel it is an insult to those men and women who truly deserve the honor.
It appears our new leaders are trying to create a new America from the top down. Next we will have the USS Bill Maher or Saul Alinsky.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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If that is your opinion, why do you continue to take part in the discussion?
Because i feel like it.

And i was talking to that specific poster about their opinion.

Anymore questions?
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I've always found the practice of anthropomorphizing machines rather odd to begin with.
Machines just hate it when people do that.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I think we should use the names of Medal of Honor recipients to name our ships before anyone else.
Then you agree they shouldn't have named a ship after reagun?
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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I served 20+ years in the Navy. My understanding of Naval history is ships are named after previous ships which distinguished themselves in service; names recommended by individuals and groups; and names of naval leaders, national figures, and deceased members of the Navy and Marine Corps who have been honored for heroism in war or for extraordinary achievement in peace.

Early in the 20th century, ships were named in accordance with a system. Battleships were named for states. Cruisers were named for cities while destroyers came to be named for American naval leaders and heroes, as today's destroyers are still named. In early 30's submarines were named for fish. Mass-produced antisubmarine patrol and escort ships were named in honor of members of the naval service killed in action in World War II. Some were named for destroyers lost in the early stages of that war. Ships lost in wartime were normally honored by having their names reassigned to new construction. During World War II the names of individuals were once again assigned to aircraft carriers.

Thanks to our current administration, anything can happen. Hey if Obama could win the Nobel Peace Prize for something he never did, anything can happen. I just feel it is an insult to those men and women who truly deserve the honor.
Oh yea? Then explain the U.S.S Sacagawea, the U.S.S. Cady Stanton, the U.S.S. Queen of France, U.S.S. Susan B. Anthony, U.S.S Harriet Lane, or the U.S.S. Watseka.

Which one of those are so inconsistent with a U.S.S Gabrielle Giffords since this issue is driving you guys so crazy.
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